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congratulations youtube

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you did it you wore me down and you

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sucked me back in

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i have too many subscribers here just to

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especially with no alternative that

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truly stacks up

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and so many copycat channels uploading

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my shows for me anyway

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but we can't forget the thc's account

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here is on thin ice

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and so the youtube version of the show

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has to be prefaced with this little psa

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will not appear here and even with that

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precaution there's already enough in the

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archive to get us removed

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so remember that the higher side chats

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could be banned or put in time out again

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at any time and i won't be able to tell

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you guys about it

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so if you feel like it's been too long

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since you've heard from me here on this

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digital dystopian draconian data mining

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your first step should be to check the

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embrace yourself because you're about to

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dive into another free

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chats and we just want to let you know

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that whether you're looking for a

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entertaining yourself through one of

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life's mundane activities or trying to

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ward off the internal screams of all

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sad smothered souls around the office

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thc is here

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which means you'll unfortunately

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in the 1930s president franklin delano

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roosevelt addressed the nation through a

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series of radio broadcasts known as the

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chats his aim was to reassure the common

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man that our society would recover from

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its troubled times

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well we're far from 1930 and i deal with

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a different kind of fire

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for a new era of worldly frustration we

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offer a fresh conversation

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i'm greg carlwood and these are the

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chats back in the saddle and ready to

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ride from sunny san diego i'm greg

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carlwood and it seems to me that anyone

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who takes an honest assessment of the

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state of the world right now can clearly

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see we're not in a good place

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depression rates are only getting higher

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the advice and treatment from the

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medical establishment is only getting

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and we're desperate for the authenticity

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the digital age is lacking

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our energy and attention has been

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corporate programming and thankless jobs

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for which we have no passion

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it's hard to imagine the solutions could

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woods or developing a meditation routine

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but the things that don't serve us are

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so severely intertwined in our lives

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that some proverbial stockholm syndrome

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has us in such a deep denial

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few people truly even test the theory

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but we see examples like today's

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returning guest phoenix aurelius who

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show us the value and fully engaging

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with natural systems the esoteric

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aspects of life

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the world beyond the bright flashing

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lights of another psychologically

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and the chaos of our signal soaked

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you might recall from his last round on

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thc that phoenix is a self-taught

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spagirisist who has been practicing and

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teaching the alchemical arts and

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sciences since 2005

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he's been reconstructing spagyric theory

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philosophy practice and pharmacopia for

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the 21st century at the phoenix aurelius

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research academy

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which you can find at

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phoenixaurelius.org along with his

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carefully crafted spagyric tinctures

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it's an honor and a pleasure to have him

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back our liaison to the deeper layers of

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phoenix my man welcome back to the

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hey thanks so much greg it's always a

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yes thanks for doing it again so soon i

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i did my job then yes yes it just shows

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last time that might be a good way to

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but it is a quote from your site where

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2014 i was hired by quari

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anti amazonian herbals to travel on site

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apprenticeship during my time there i

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of bioregional animism locations having

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2014 i got invited down by aubry bomdot

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incan empire realistically at least from

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and transported up into the sacred

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for so many of the ceremonies that have

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magical practice per se but they do have

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which would be like vegetable healing a

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form of kind of magic using the plants

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so they have like mapacheros which takes

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mapachos sacred tobacco sacred

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amazonian tobacco and they'll perform

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all these healings and things but they

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don't have any windows in their houses

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negative spirits can enter in through

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the windows and you know

285
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just a very very you don't point at

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rainbows because the rainbow will bite

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you and then you'll get sick

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you never go outside in the rain you

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never stand out in the wind especially

290
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in the evenings you always have to go

291
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indoors in the evenings otherwise

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the beings out there make you sick and

293
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they have a very very steep cosmology

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whether you're la mista

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or just it's interesting because they

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kind of discriminate against their own

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indigenous

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tribes so there are peruvians and then

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there are

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indigenous and the peruvians like those

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who live in

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tarapoto for instance they still abide

303
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by a lot of the old indigenous ways

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and beliefs in cosmology but there's a

305
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very clear

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distinct difference in their own opinion

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between the ways of life and so many

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other things so the

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peruvians themselves in taraputto are

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still very much so alive with this

311
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cosmology

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they have this concept of a being known

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as chuyachaki

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and chuyachi became one of my favorite

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fascinations actually of the entire

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amazonian cosmology because

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he's kind of like the amazonian

318
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equivalent

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of pan you know the greek god pan the

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seder

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and so they oftentimes will say that he

322
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has you know the skin of a snake

323
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more or less the body of a human but his

324
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legs are oftentimes like

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hooved animals so sometimes deer

326
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sometimes

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goats and then he has horns and

328
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which is a very very interesting

329
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cosmology but he's kind of the keeper of

330
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the forest

331
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and when we went on a hike to i think

332
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it's called the waka mayo

333
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waterfall we were doing

334
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this hike and our tour guide was telling

335
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us that

336
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his brother actually went into the

337
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forest as a kid

338
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and he didn't take any mapacho with him

339
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which is you know this

340
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sacred tobacco from the amazon didn't

341
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take any mapacho with him and so

342
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anytime you encounter chuyachi you

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always have to be able to make some sort

344
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of offering

345
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and tobacco is basically the offering

346
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that he really likes and he didn't have

347
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it and he came back and his arms were

348
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ripped off both of his arms

349
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and he was running back to his village

350
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and passed out just a short way in front

351
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of the village

352
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and ended up living because they were

353
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able to cauterize it with

354
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really hot wound but now he has no arms

355
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and according to him in the local

356
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villagers that's

357
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like a pretty regular common occurrence

358
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if you're in the forest doing things

359
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that you ought not be doing like

360
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harvesting things without

361
00:12:16,310 --> 00:12:13,440
permission you might run into

362
00:12:18,389 --> 00:12:16,320
chuyachucki and so

363
00:12:19,990 --> 00:12:18,399
that was just a very interesting glimpse

364
00:12:21,990 --> 00:12:20,000
into the magic that's kind of still

365
00:12:22,790 --> 00:12:22,000
alive but you go even deeper and you

366
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start to see

367
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that you know they have so many

368
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different types of what we would refer

369
00:12:29,269 --> 00:12:28,959
to in the west as mythical beasts that

370
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are

371
00:12:34,710 --> 00:12:32,639
still alive and still very believed in

372
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and very much so interacted

373
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with the local individuals and it just

374
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there's a sense of magic and there's a

375
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sense of

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mysticism that is alive there even in

377
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the minds of the common people

378
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even in the christian population you

379
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know that

380
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you just don't see that so much here in

381
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in the united states

382
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although we do have it we have plenty of

383
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places like in yosemite national park

384
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and so many other places you know it's

385
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like

386
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missing 4-1-1 actually starts to tap

387
00:13:02,870 --> 00:13:01,600
into

388
00:13:04,790 --> 00:13:02,880
maybe some of these different

389
00:13:07,430 --> 00:13:04,800
interdimensional entities

390
00:13:08,069 --> 00:13:07,440
so we do have them here it's just not as

391
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alive

392
00:13:14,150 --> 00:13:11,920
it's just still not as pronounced

393
00:13:15,990 --> 00:13:14,160
as what it was in the amazon and so

394
00:13:17,829 --> 00:13:16,000
being able to learn and interact with

395
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that magic and being able to explore

396
00:13:22,310 --> 00:13:18,880
that and

397
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go to different areas too of the entire

398
00:13:26,389 --> 00:13:25,200
amazonia region was just absolutely

399
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spectacular it was

400
00:13:31,030 --> 00:13:28,880
a life enriching experience and in fact

401
00:13:33,190 --> 00:13:31,040
you know we tried to hold

402
00:13:34,230 --> 00:13:33,200
alchemy and the amazon retreats down

403
00:13:36,949 --> 00:13:34,240
there because you know

404
00:13:38,710 --> 00:13:36,959
they have an entire retreat house to do

405
00:13:41,829 --> 00:13:38,720
it but we just couldn't find enough

406
00:13:45,110 --> 00:13:41,839
interest actually for people to want to

407
00:13:47,030 --> 00:13:45,120
go down to the amazon study for 10 to 14

408
00:13:48,230 --> 00:13:47,040
days with alchemy in an immersive

409
00:13:49,750 --> 00:13:48,240
environment and

410
00:13:51,509 --> 00:13:49,760
you know a lot of that for western

411
00:13:53,829 --> 00:13:51,519
schedules is just it's hard to be away

412
00:13:55,590 --> 00:13:53,839
for seven to 14 days but especially out

413
00:13:57,750 --> 00:13:55,600
of country you know if you have kids or

414
00:13:59,189 --> 00:13:57,760
a job or any of these other things but

415
00:14:00,550 --> 00:13:59,199
you know anybody who's interested in

416
00:14:02,150 --> 00:14:00,560
doing that go ahead and let us know

417
00:14:04,790 --> 00:14:02,160
we'll put your name on the roster

418
00:14:08,230 --> 00:14:04,800
and i'd be more than happy to lead a

419
00:14:10,310 --> 00:14:08,240
trip once peru opens its borders again

420
00:14:11,829 --> 00:14:10,320
yes yes that's where i was supposed to

421
00:14:13,910 --> 00:14:11,839
be this summer but of course

422
00:14:16,150 --> 00:14:13,920
a lot of people's plans got disrupted

423
00:14:16,470 --> 00:14:16,160
and it is kind of crazy because those

424
00:14:18,150 --> 00:14:16,480
are

425
00:14:20,790 --> 00:14:18,160
interesting stories and it seems like

426
00:14:22,790 --> 00:14:20,800
the most universal aspect of various

427
00:14:24,870 --> 00:14:22,800
indigenous cultures seems to be that

428
00:14:27,430 --> 00:14:24,880
spirits and entities are very

429
00:14:28,470 --> 00:14:27,440
real and you have to adjust your life

430
00:14:31,269 --> 00:14:28,480
accordingly

431
00:14:31,990 --> 00:14:31,279
so much so that it's weird to me that we

432
00:14:35,110 --> 00:14:32,000
can strip

433
00:14:38,069 --> 00:14:35,120
out the spirits from our culture and

434
00:14:39,350 --> 00:14:38,079
nobody seems to be missing limbs without

435
00:14:40,949 --> 00:14:39,360
an explanation but of course

436
00:14:42,470 --> 00:14:40,959
bears and mountain lions are also

437
00:14:44,710 --> 00:14:42,480
dangerous but we've

438
00:14:46,629 --> 00:14:44,720
run them out for the most part too so

439
00:14:48,069 --> 00:14:46,639
maybe it's something similar maybe our

440
00:14:50,949 --> 00:14:48,079
modern cities and

441
00:14:52,870 --> 00:14:50,959
industrialized culture kind of pushes

442
00:14:55,590 --> 00:14:52,880
spirits to the borders

443
00:14:57,509 --> 00:14:55,600
in the same way that we push dangerous

444
00:14:59,670 --> 00:14:57,519
animals out

445
00:15:00,790 --> 00:14:59,680
well you know like i was saying actually

446
00:15:03,189 --> 00:15:00,800
there are

447
00:15:04,949 --> 00:15:03,199
multiple cases especially in various

448
00:15:05,990 --> 00:15:04,959
national forests yosemite being one of

449
00:15:09,350 --> 00:15:06,000
them where you do

450
00:15:10,790 --> 00:15:09,360
find guts and trails other things of

451
00:15:12,870 --> 00:15:10,800
missing people but you don't find

452
00:15:14,230 --> 00:15:12,880
anything else

453
00:15:15,670 --> 00:15:14,240
sometimes they just go missing

454
00:15:17,030 --> 00:15:15,680
altogether like there's some very

455
00:15:20,069 --> 00:15:17,040
interesting information

456
00:15:22,069 --> 00:15:20,079
a woman named michelle devries

457
00:15:23,269 --> 00:15:22,079
she's writing a master's thesis on this

458
00:15:26,150 --> 00:15:23,279
for her

459
00:15:27,670 --> 00:15:26,160
degree in metaphysics but you know

460
00:15:29,749 --> 00:15:27,680
realistically there have been people out

461
00:15:32,790 --> 00:15:29,759
there investigators like

462
00:15:34,550 --> 00:15:32,800
david pelleties who have been

463
00:15:37,110 --> 00:15:34,560
discussing things like this actually for

464
00:15:39,749 --> 00:15:37,120
a long time and you know of course there

465
00:15:41,670 --> 00:15:39,759
are you know wide accounts of what we

466
00:15:44,310 --> 00:15:41,680
would refer to as bigfoot out here in

467
00:15:46,790 --> 00:15:44,320
utah we definitely have

468
00:15:48,870 --> 00:15:46,800
skin walkers and you know other types of

469
00:15:53,189 --> 00:15:48,880
things like that that were

470
00:15:55,829 --> 00:15:53,199
typically used by brujeria or a type of

471
00:15:56,710 --> 00:15:55,839
magic and you know the navajo and the

472
00:15:58,790 --> 00:15:56,720
paiute

473
00:16:00,389 --> 00:15:58,800
definitely have some long-standing

474
00:16:01,990 --> 00:16:00,399
resentment against each other that were

475
00:16:04,470 --> 00:16:02,000
pitted by the mormons where they

476
00:16:06,069 --> 00:16:04,480
were casting spells on and cursing each

477
00:16:08,310 --> 00:16:06,079
other's land and if you go into that

478
00:16:10,069 --> 00:16:08,320
land especially here in the uintas

479
00:16:11,590 --> 00:16:10,079
south face of the uintas near paiute

480
00:16:15,189 --> 00:16:11,600
territory it

481
00:16:15,990 --> 00:16:15,199
is definitely you're going to run into

482
00:16:18,790 --> 00:16:16,000
some very

483
00:16:20,230 --> 00:16:18,800
unexplainable experiences disappearances

484
00:16:21,110 --> 00:16:20,240
different types of things like that as

485
00:16:23,509 --> 00:16:21,120
well so

486
00:16:25,110 --> 00:16:23,519
we do have it it's just definitely not

487
00:16:26,629 --> 00:16:25,120
as pronounced and of course

488
00:16:28,870 --> 00:16:26,639
you know the roman catholic church and

489
00:16:30,629 --> 00:16:28,880
then following after that

490
00:16:32,550 --> 00:16:30,639
in its wake all of the other different

491
00:16:34,310 --> 00:16:32,560
denominations of christianity have

492
00:16:37,509 --> 00:16:34,320
really tried to drive

493
00:16:38,310 --> 00:16:37,519
out that concept of spirits from our

494
00:16:41,670 --> 00:16:38,320
modern culture

495
00:16:44,710 --> 00:16:41,680
today and i think that that's folly

496
00:16:46,629 --> 00:16:44,720
it doesn't matter whether you go to

497
00:16:47,749 --> 00:16:46,639
you know places like ireland or iceland

498
00:16:50,550 --> 00:16:47,759
or whatever else

499
00:16:51,590 --> 00:16:50,560
norway they all have traditions where

500
00:16:53,990 --> 00:16:51,600
the little people

501
00:16:55,430 --> 00:16:54,000
or where the elves or where the gnomes

502
00:16:57,269 --> 00:16:55,440
where they dwell and

503
00:16:59,590 --> 00:16:57,279
how they interact and even you know like

504
00:17:00,629 --> 00:16:59,600
in norway and sweden and stuff if you

505
00:17:02,389 --> 00:17:00,639
were to

506
00:17:04,309 --> 00:17:02,399
take a pot of boiling water and pour it

507
00:17:04,789 --> 00:17:04,319
on the ground you first have to make a

508
00:17:06,870 --> 00:17:04,799
call

509
00:17:08,230 --> 00:17:06,880
out to the elves or to the little people

510
00:17:09,029 --> 00:17:08,240
and let them know that you're going to

511
00:17:10,870 --> 00:17:09,039
do it because

512
00:17:12,949 --> 00:17:10,880
they take it very offensively if you

513
00:17:14,309 --> 00:17:12,959
spill hot water on them accidentally by

514
00:17:15,909 --> 00:17:14,319
not even knowing that they're there so

515
00:17:16,549 --> 00:17:15,919
you give them fair warning before you

516
00:17:18,470 --> 00:17:16,559
place

517
00:17:20,069 --> 00:17:18,480
hot water on the ground so that type of

518
00:17:21,990 --> 00:17:20,079
magic and that type of awareness is

519
00:17:25,110 --> 00:17:22,000
definitely alive in the west just

520
00:17:26,069 --> 00:17:25,120
perhaps not as pronounced yes fair

521
00:17:28,390 --> 00:17:26,079
points i mean

522
00:17:29,750 --> 00:17:28,400
the missing 401 stuff is really

523
00:17:33,110 --> 00:17:29,760
fascinating and it does

524
00:17:34,710 --> 00:17:33,120
often happen in open spaces or woods or

525
00:17:37,990 --> 00:17:34,720
national parks so it's like

526
00:17:40,630 --> 00:17:38,000
think back to a time when

527
00:17:41,029 --> 00:17:40,640
all of america was open spaces woods and

528
00:17:43,510 --> 00:17:41,039
yes

529
00:17:45,430 --> 00:17:43,520
national park like landscapes and i'm

530
00:17:49,270 --> 00:17:45,440
sure this stuff was just everywhere

531
00:17:52,150 --> 00:17:49,280
and last time we talked about spagirix

532
00:17:53,669 --> 00:17:52,160
and alchemy 101 and the basic idea that

533
00:17:56,630 --> 00:17:53,679
everything is made up of

534
00:17:57,510 --> 00:17:56,640
sulfur or the soul mercury which is the

535
00:18:00,310 --> 00:17:57,520
spirit

536
00:18:02,070 --> 00:18:00,320
and salt which is the body and what i

537
00:18:03,990 --> 00:18:02,080
loved about that what makes it

538
00:18:05,669 --> 00:18:04,000
seem like such a sound philosophy is

539
00:18:09,029 --> 00:18:05,679
just how universally

540
00:18:10,870 --> 00:18:09,039
applicable it is working these aspects

541
00:18:12,549 --> 00:18:10,880
in the right way and in the right order

542
00:18:15,110 --> 00:18:12,559
is as useful for making

543
00:18:16,150 --> 00:18:15,120
potent teachers as it is building a

544
00:18:18,310 --> 00:18:16,160
better you

545
00:18:20,310 --> 00:18:18,320
well to say that everything is also

546
00:18:22,789 --> 00:18:20,320
divided into male and female

547
00:18:24,470 --> 00:18:22,799
ones and zeros might seem a bit more

548
00:18:26,870 --> 00:18:24,480
obvious but this is also an

549
00:18:27,750 --> 00:18:26,880
aspect of that perennial philosophy that

550
00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:27,760
goes a lot

551
00:18:33,750 --> 00:18:31,120
deeper than we might realize right

552
00:18:35,270 --> 00:18:33,760
yeah absolutely for instance in the

553
00:18:38,310 --> 00:18:35,280
alchemical cosmology

554
00:18:41,270 --> 00:18:38,320
everything originates from what would be

555
00:18:43,350 --> 00:18:41,280
known as the universal monad okay the

556
00:18:47,909 --> 00:18:43,360
universal source of creation

557
00:18:50,390 --> 00:18:47,919
that monad really in order to be able to

558
00:18:51,590 --> 00:18:50,400
create it needs to know two functions it

559
00:18:53,590 --> 00:18:51,600
needs to know the off

560
00:18:55,990 --> 00:18:53,600
function and it needs to know the on

561
00:18:58,070 --> 00:18:56,000
function the off function

562
00:19:00,230 --> 00:18:58,080
would be what we would perceive as is

563
00:19:01,029 --> 00:19:00,240
like the feminine polarity which is

564
00:19:04,470 --> 00:19:01,039
passive

565
00:19:06,630 --> 00:19:04,480
okay and then the active aspect

566
00:19:09,350 --> 00:19:06,640
of that polarity would be what we would

567
00:19:11,350 --> 00:19:09,360
conceive to be as the masculine

568
00:19:14,230 --> 00:19:11,360
and these in alchemy are known as

569
00:19:16,549 --> 00:19:14,240
celestial salt and celestial nighter

570
00:19:17,430 --> 00:19:16,559
respectively the passive being celestial

571
00:19:19,830 --> 00:19:17,440
salt and

572
00:19:21,510 --> 00:19:19,840
celestial nighter being the active and

573
00:19:23,669 --> 00:19:21,520
from these things that really is the

574
00:19:24,710 --> 00:19:23,679
binary coding if you want to look at it

575
00:19:26,630 --> 00:19:24,720
into the universe

576
00:19:28,549 --> 00:19:26,640
and you know what we look at is that

577
00:19:29,430 --> 00:19:28,559
everything is one from a spiritual

578
00:19:32,150 --> 00:19:29,440
source

579
00:19:32,789 --> 00:19:32,160
and so in the spiritual dimension all

580
00:19:35,350 --> 00:19:32,799
there is

581
00:19:37,110 --> 00:19:35,360
realistically is unity and that's where

582
00:19:40,230 --> 00:19:37,120
the monad comes in

583
00:19:42,150 --> 00:19:40,240
as soon as you start to precipitate down

584
00:19:43,750 --> 00:19:42,160
from spirituality though the next

585
00:19:45,590 --> 00:19:43,760
dimension that we would be referring to

586
00:19:47,669 --> 00:19:45,600
would be the causal dimension

587
00:19:48,870 --> 00:19:47,679
and in this this is where cause and

588
00:19:52,070 --> 00:19:48,880
effect really happens

589
00:19:53,590 --> 00:19:52,080
so this is also where sacred geometry

590
00:19:55,669 --> 00:19:53,600
really comes into play and where it's

591
00:19:59,909 --> 00:19:55,679
very important because zeros

592
00:20:01,669 --> 00:19:59,919
are like angles and ones are

593
00:20:02,950 --> 00:20:01,679
very much so just like a straight line

594
00:20:05,510 --> 00:20:02,960
or a segment

595
00:20:06,549 --> 00:20:05,520
and so every time that you hit a zero

596
00:20:08,710 --> 00:20:06,559
it's like creating an

597
00:20:10,549 --> 00:20:08,720
angle every time you hit a one it's a

598
00:20:11,510 --> 00:20:10,559
segment connecting that angle to the

599
00:20:15,909 --> 00:20:11,520
next

600
00:20:16,549 --> 00:20:15,919
to get and there are only so many

601
00:20:18,630 --> 00:20:16,559
different

602
00:20:20,470 --> 00:20:18,640
forms that you can have by creating

603
00:20:23,750 --> 00:20:20,480
zeros and ones before you start

604
00:20:26,070 --> 00:20:23,760
building the same types of forms

605
00:20:27,350 --> 00:20:26,080
just on top of more elaborate forms so

606
00:20:31,190 --> 00:20:27,360
you know plato

607
00:20:33,110 --> 00:20:31,200
and hippocrates and so many others

608
00:20:35,270 --> 00:20:33,120
aristotle in fact we refer to these

609
00:20:37,110 --> 00:20:35,280
oftentimes as aristotelian thought but

610
00:20:37,590 --> 00:20:37,120
pythagoras was actually the one who

611
00:20:40,310 --> 00:20:37,600
drove

612
00:20:41,510 --> 00:20:40,320
geometry into greek cosmology and

613
00:20:44,710 --> 00:20:41,520
started talking about

614
00:20:45,909 --> 00:20:44,720
what we now call the platonic solids so

615
00:20:47,830 --> 00:20:45,919
you have a sphere

616
00:20:50,230 --> 00:20:47,840
which is perfectly feminine that's

617
00:20:52,070 --> 00:20:50,240
nothing but zeros

618
00:20:53,510 --> 00:20:52,080
and then you know you would have your

619
00:20:56,390 --> 00:20:53,520
tetrahedron

620
00:20:58,789 --> 00:20:56,400
which corresponds to the element of fire

621
00:21:00,549 --> 00:20:58,799
and when you create the causal

622
00:21:02,070 --> 00:21:00,559
shape of the tetrahedron using the

623
00:21:03,430 --> 00:21:02,080
amount of segments and the amount of

624
00:21:05,909 --> 00:21:03,440
angles that there are

625
00:21:07,110 --> 00:21:05,919
that is the most active and dynamic of

626
00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:07,120
all of those shapes

627
00:21:10,950 --> 00:21:10,080
and its inverse when you take an inverse

628
00:21:13,909 --> 00:21:10,960
shape of it

629
00:21:14,310 --> 00:21:13,919
and this goes into archimedean geometry

630
00:21:16,470 --> 00:21:14,320
is

631
00:21:18,390 --> 00:21:16,480
another tetrahedron so it doesn't

632
00:21:19,990 --> 00:21:18,400
transform into something else like the

633
00:21:23,029 --> 00:21:20,000
rest of the elements do

634
00:21:25,350 --> 00:21:23,039
but if you take water which is for

635
00:21:28,950 --> 00:21:25,360
instance the icosahedron

636
00:21:31,430 --> 00:21:28,960
and you inverse all of the positions of

637
00:21:33,350 --> 00:21:31,440
it through archimedean geometries

638
00:21:35,590 --> 00:21:33,360
you'll begin to notice that through just

639
00:21:37,830 --> 00:21:35,600
a number of processes typically seven

640
00:21:39,669 --> 00:21:37,840
processes you're able to arrive from one

641
00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:39,679
geometry to the next so if you start

642
00:21:44,230 --> 00:21:41,600
with an icosahedron you follow

643
00:21:45,510 --> 00:21:44,240
all of the archimedean steps the seven

644
00:21:47,430 --> 00:21:45,520
archimedean steps

645
00:21:49,830 --> 00:21:47,440
and what you end up with on the other

646
00:21:51,830 --> 00:21:49,840
end is a pentagonal dodecahedron which

647
00:21:54,310 --> 00:21:51,840
corresponds to spirit

648
00:21:55,590 --> 00:21:54,320
and of course if you do this with a cube

649
00:21:57,590 --> 00:21:55,600
and you follow the archimedean

650
00:21:59,830 --> 00:21:57,600
geometries you end up with an octahedron

651
00:22:02,549 --> 00:21:59,840
at the end of those seven processes

652
00:22:03,909 --> 00:22:02,559
and vice versa so the dodecahedron can

653
00:22:06,950 --> 00:22:03,919
easily be turned into

654
00:22:09,510 --> 00:22:06,960
an icosahedron and a cube can easily be

655
00:22:12,789 --> 00:22:09,520
turned into an octahedron vice versa

656
00:22:15,990 --> 00:22:12,799
so those really are the way so you

657
00:22:19,909 --> 00:22:16,000
have your fire air water earth

658
00:22:23,350 --> 00:22:19,919
and spirit concepts all embodied

659
00:22:26,070 --> 00:22:23,360
inside of geometry and what makes

660
00:22:27,190 --> 00:22:26,080
something a perfect platonic solid is if

661
00:22:29,669 --> 00:22:27,200
all of the angles

662
00:22:30,310 --> 00:22:29,679
are completely equal in that geometric

663
00:22:31,669 --> 00:22:30,320
form

664
00:22:34,149 --> 00:22:31,679
and if all of the lengths of the

665
00:22:34,789 --> 00:22:34,159
segments are exactly the same as well

666
00:22:37,830 --> 00:22:34,799
and if they

667
00:22:39,909 --> 00:22:37,840
all fit inside of a sphere so that all

668
00:22:41,590 --> 00:22:39,919
of the angles are touching the edges of

669
00:22:43,830 --> 00:22:41,600
the sphere perfectly

670
00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:43,840
that's really the criteria that are

671
00:22:46,630 --> 00:22:45,840
necessary in order to make a platonic

672
00:22:51,990 --> 00:22:46,640
solid

673
00:22:53,909 --> 00:22:52,000
within our framework of creation

674
00:22:55,350 --> 00:22:53,919
appear to be kind of like the causal

675
00:22:57,669 --> 00:22:55,360
building blocks

676
00:22:58,630 --> 00:22:57,679
and over time like for instance if i

677
00:23:02,070 --> 00:22:58,640
take a cube

678
00:23:05,430 --> 00:23:02,080
and i start adding tetrahedrons

679
00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:05,440
onto each of the faces each of the six

680
00:23:09,830 --> 00:23:06,720
faces now we have

681
00:23:12,149 --> 00:23:09,840
a more elaborate geometry and on each of

682
00:23:13,110 --> 00:23:12,159
those faces of the tetrahedrons that are

683
00:23:16,630 --> 00:23:13,120
on site

684
00:23:17,270 --> 00:23:16,640
on the cube if we add some octahedrons

685
00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:17,280
onto

686
00:23:22,149 --> 00:23:20,320
those triangular faces then

687
00:23:23,909 --> 00:23:22,159
we start to get even a more complex

688
00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:23,919
geometry and so on and so forth and this

689
00:23:27,270 --> 00:23:25,360
is kind of the way from

690
00:23:28,470 --> 00:23:27,280
the causal perspective from the causal

691
00:23:30,789 --> 00:23:28,480
level how

692
00:23:32,549 --> 00:23:30,799
creation begins to stack upon itself and

693
00:23:35,669 --> 00:23:32,559
create new possibilities of

694
00:23:36,710 --> 00:23:35,679
what is available in terms of conscious

695
00:23:38,950 --> 00:23:36,720
exploration

696
00:23:40,230 --> 00:23:38,960
for anything that exists within the

697
00:23:42,789 --> 00:23:40,240
causal plane

698
00:23:44,310 --> 00:23:42,799
and like i kind of talked about from the

699
00:23:46,149 --> 00:23:44,320
causal plane

700
00:23:48,070 --> 00:23:46,159
descends into the astral plane and the

701
00:23:50,230 --> 00:23:48,080
astral plane really is

702
00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:50,240
corresponding to the base platonic

703
00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:52,240
geometries and this deals with your

704
00:23:56,470 --> 00:23:54,240
elements you know four elements plus the

705
00:23:57,110 --> 00:23:56,480
quintessence of spirit or icosahedron

706
00:23:59,669 --> 00:23:57,120
which is

707
00:24:01,430 --> 00:23:59,679
a perfect balance of all four of the

708
00:24:05,029 --> 00:24:01,440
aristotelian elements so

709
00:24:07,110 --> 00:24:05,039
no one element takes predominance and

710
00:24:08,070 --> 00:24:07,120
it's within that framework that the

711
00:24:10,149 --> 00:24:08,080
astral

712
00:24:11,669 --> 00:24:10,159
really is able to take shape and draw

713
00:24:13,029 --> 00:24:11,679
its power from the causal

714
00:24:16,310 --> 00:24:13,039
and then from there the astral

715
00:24:18,430 --> 00:24:16,320
precipitates into etheric energy

716
00:24:19,590 --> 00:24:18,440
which we would primarily refer to as

717
00:24:21,909 --> 00:24:19,600
electromagnetism

718
00:24:23,430 --> 00:24:21,919
but the flow of anything actually it

719
00:24:24,549 --> 00:24:23,440
doesn't just have to be flow of

720
00:24:27,750 --> 00:24:24,559
electromagnetism

721
00:24:30,549 --> 00:24:27,760
flow of any energy and then from there

722
00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:30,559
that informs physical matter how to

723
00:24:33,990 --> 00:24:32,400
precipitate so you know

724
00:24:35,830 --> 00:24:34,000
realistically what we're looking at in

725
00:24:36,310 --> 00:24:35,840
terms of celestial salt and celestial

726
00:24:39,190 --> 00:24:36,320
niter

727
00:24:39,669 --> 00:24:39,200
are the basic building blocks to create

728
00:24:42,230 --> 00:24:39,679
things

729
00:24:43,269 --> 00:24:42,240
within the causal plane and that's where

730
00:24:45,590 --> 00:24:43,279
the concept

731
00:24:47,669 --> 00:24:45,600
of masculine and feminine originally

732
00:24:48,470 --> 00:24:47,679
starts but then when you precipitate

733
00:24:51,110 --> 00:24:48,480
into

734
00:24:51,990 --> 00:24:51,120
the astral plane fire would be the

735
00:24:56,149 --> 00:24:52,000
active

736
00:24:59,430 --> 00:24:56,159
wind would be

737
00:25:02,549 --> 00:24:59,440
the passive of the active elements

738
00:25:06,230 --> 00:25:02,559
that correspond to celestial niter

739
00:25:08,710 --> 00:25:06,240
and celestial salt would have the active

740
00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:08,720
of the passive being water and the

741
00:25:12,630 --> 00:25:09,360
passive

742
00:25:15,029 --> 00:25:12,640
see

743
00:25:16,789 --> 00:25:15,039
that there is yin within yang and yang

744
00:25:18,549 --> 00:25:16,799
within yin just like they talked about

745
00:25:20,630 --> 00:25:18,559
in chinese cosmology

746
00:25:22,710 --> 00:25:20,640
also making its way into western

747
00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:22,720
cosmology just through these concepts of

748
00:25:26,549 --> 00:25:24,720
celestial salt and celestial niter

749
00:25:28,789 --> 00:25:26,559
and of course like we've talked about on

750
00:25:30,870 --> 00:25:28,799
the etheric plane

751
00:25:32,789 --> 00:25:30,880
everything is composed of a soul spirit

752
00:25:35,990 --> 00:25:32,799
and body or sulfur mercury and salt

753
00:25:37,029 --> 00:25:36,000
and what that looks like really is that

754
00:25:40,950 --> 00:25:37,039
the combination

755
00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:40,960
of fire and wind is what creates sulfur

756
00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:44,320
and the combination of wind and water is

757
00:25:47,029 --> 00:25:45,840
what creates mercury which is

758
00:25:49,830 --> 00:25:47,039
androgynous

759
00:25:51,029 --> 00:25:49,840
or actually hermaphroditic so fire would

760
00:25:55,669 --> 00:25:51,039
be very masculine

761
00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:55,679
hermaphroditic archetype would be

762
00:25:59,590 --> 00:25:57,360
mercury and then of course you have

763
00:26:01,510 --> 00:25:59,600
the feminine archetype being salt which

764
00:26:05,590 --> 00:26:01,520
is a combination of water

765
00:26:08,070 --> 00:26:05,600
and earth and so you have those four

766
00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:08,080
elements essentially creating three very

767
00:26:11,669 --> 00:26:10,080
distinct and very unique

768
00:26:13,830 --> 00:26:11,679
genders by the time you get to the

769
00:26:15,510 --> 00:26:13,840
etheric body and those are also

770
00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:15,520
the three genders that you actually see

771
00:26:19,669 --> 00:26:17,360
appearing in nature all over

772
00:26:22,390 --> 00:26:19,679
which is masculine feminine or

773
00:26:24,630 --> 00:26:22,400
hermaphrodite

774
00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:24,640
and you know this being somewhat of a

775
00:26:27,510 --> 00:26:25,520
conspiracy

776
00:26:29,510 --> 00:26:27,520
show and this is thorny territory but

777
00:26:32,230 --> 00:26:29,520
there are people out there whose

778
00:26:32,789 --> 00:26:32,240
research seems to be focused on the fact

779
00:26:37,190 --> 00:26:32,799
that they're

780
00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:37,200
trying to increase the uh androgynous

781
00:26:41,830 --> 00:26:40,400
gender and it's something it's not like

782
00:26:43,590 --> 00:26:41,840
my biggest priority

783
00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:43,600
in terms of like the problems we're

784
00:26:47,190 --> 00:26:44,880
dealing with here but

785
00:26:50,390 --> 00:26:47,200
it is interesting to think about the

786
00:26:52,789 --> 00:26:50,400
esoteric agendas of the elite and

787
00:26:54,870 --> 00:26:52,799
having the context of the different

788
00:26:55,990 --> 00:26:54,880
realms and dimensions and the structures

789
00:26:58,870 --> 00:26:56,000
of reality that

790
00:27:00,789 --> 00:26:58,880
the average guy doesn't really have it

791
00:27:01,110 --> 00:27:00,799
does seem like they're doing some kind

792
00:27:02,950 --> 00:27:01,120
of

793
00:27:04,789 --> 00:27:02,960
meddling there what do you think about

794
00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:04,799
that yeah actually

795
00:27:08,870 --> 00:27:06,720
beth martens asked me about this when i

796
00:27:10,149 --> 00:27:08,880
went on her king hero podcast and you

797
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:10,159
know what i can say is

798
00:27:14,390 --> 00:27:12,240
that any time that you're working with

799
00:27:17,430 --> 00:27:14,400
various chemicals that are able to

800
00:27:18,230 --> 00:27:17,440
alter the endocrine system response of

801
00:27:21,269 --> 00:27:18,240
an individual

802
00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:21,279
or starting to eat foods that also alter

803
00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:22,960
endocrine response and make those foods

804
00:27:26,070 --> 00:27:24,480
popularized by

805
00:27:28,710 --> 00:27:26,080
you know fast food or other things like

806
00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:28,720
that it doesn't have to be much of an

807
00:27:32,549 --> 00:27:30,559
agenda because people will always do

808
00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:32,559
what is easiest and most available to

809
00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:33,600
them so

810
00:27:36,549 --> 00:27:35,279
whether there is an agenda or whether

811
00:27:37,269 --> 00:27:36,559
they're doing it through their own

812
00:27:39,350 --> 00:27:37,279
ignorance

813
00:27:40,630 --> 00:27:39,360
is really difficult to say but what i

814
00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:40,640
can say is that

815
00:27:46,070 --> 00:27:44,320
most men are very testosterone deficient

816
00:27:48,549 --> 00:27:46,080
these days we have a whole lot of what i

817
00:27:49,909 --> 00:27:48,559
would refer to as girly boys

818
00:27:52,149 --> 00:27:49,919
to draw a term from arnold

819
00:27:55,269 --> 00:27:52,159
schwarzenegger and

820
00:27:58,789 --> 00:27:55,279
we also have a whole lot of

821
00:28:01,269 --> 00:27:58,799
women too that are very much so

822
00:28:03,190 --> 00:28:01,279
estrogen dominant and we also have some

823
00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:03,200
estrogen deficiencies

824
00:28:06,389 --> 00:28:04,960
we have so many different types of

825
00:28:07,110 --> 00:28:06,399
things and you know of course the

826
00:28:10,870 --> 00:28:07,120
chemicals

827
00:28:13,190 --> 00:28:10,880
of atrazine that are really present

828
00:28:14,630 --> 00:28:13,200
anywhere where you're downstream from

829
00:28:17,510 --> 00:28:14,640
commercial logging

830
00:28:19,430 --> 00:28:17,520
operations or even california washington

831
00:28:21,750 --> 00:28:19,440
and oregon are the highest in the united

832
00:28:24,149 --> 00:28:21,760
states for their atrazine use

833
00:28:25,669 --> 00:28:24,159
and it follows agriculture and forestry

834
00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:25,679
basically and so that's why you see

835
00:28:29,029 --> 00:28:27,360
those three states having the highest

836
00:28:31,350 --> 00:28:29,039
levels of them

837
00:28:33,190 --> 00:28:31,360
dr tyrone hayes is actually shown very

838
00:28:35,110 --> 00:28:33,200
clinically that you can take with a very

839
00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:35,120
small amount of atrazine

840
00:28:40,389 --> 00:28:38,240
applied to frogs or most amphibians but

841
00:28:43,029 --> 00:28:40,399
he's working specifically with frogs

842
00:28:44,789 --> 00:28:43,039
you can take a biologically male frog

843
00:28:46,389 --> 00:28:44,799
apply a small amount of atrazine to

844
00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:46,399
either food water or

845
00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:50,080
skin exposure and with enough prolonged

846
00:28:53,430 --> 00:28:52,240
exposure which isn't really that long

847
00:28:55,110 --> 00:28:53,440
what ends up happening is that

848
00:28:55,990 --> 00:28:55,120
biologically male frog becomes a

849
00:28:58,149 --> 00:28:56,000
biologically

850
00:28:59,590 --> 00:28:58,159
female frog that is actually then

851
00:29:01,269 --> 00:28:59,600
capable of

852
00:29:03,430 --> 00:29:01,279
being impregnated and laying its own

853
00:29:06,789 --> 00:29:03,440
eggs by another male frog

854
00:29:08,389 --> 00:29:06,799
and so atrazine literally over three

855
00:29:09,669 --> 00:29:08,399
times the amount that's necessary in

856
00:29:11,909 --> 00:29:09,679
order to do that to

857
00:29:12,950 --> 00:29:11,919
a biological specimen of a frog or other

858
00:29:15,909 --> 00:29:12,960
amphibians

859
00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:15,919
is legally allowed in the water supply

860
00:29:19,669 --> 00:29:17,600
and so when you take a look at the west

861
00:29:22,389 --> 00:29:19,679
coast and you take a look at its

862
00:29:23,669 --> 00:29:22,399
transsexual orientation in the modern

863
00:29:25,590 --> 00:29:23,679
day and things like that i think that

864
00:29:25,990 --> 00:29:25,600
there's definitely some causation

865
00:29:28,149 --> 00:29:26,000
happening

866
00:29:29,590 --> 00:29:28,159
by that it's not just that people feel

867
00:29:31,669 --> 00:29:29,600
free to express who they

868
00:29:33,350 --> 00:29:31,679
really are quote unquote it's that they

869
00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:33,360
wouldn't even know who they really are

870
00:29:37,430 --> 00:29:35,840
in certain cases because they are so

871
00:29:39,590 --> 00:29:37,440
impacted by

872
00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:39,600
chemical influences and atrazine is

873
00:29:42,389 --> 00:29:41,039
really just one of those i've been

874
00:29:45,029 --> 00:29:42,399
collecting

875
00:29:46,510 --> 00:29:45,039
peer-reviewed scientific documentation

876
00:29:49,269 --> 00:29:46,520
on a wide number of different

877
00:29:49,909 --> 00:29:49,279
endocrinological disruptors and anything

878
00:29:51,830 --> 00:29:49,919
that

879
00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:51,840
plays around with sex hormones or

880
00:29:56,230 --> 00:29:53,440
androgen in general

881
00:29:57,990 --> 00:29:56,240
is going to create gender confusion

882
00:30:00,630 --> 00:29:58,000
gender dysmorphia somewhere along the

883
00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:03,110
yeah i mean i know that's a topic in

884
00:30:06,630 --> 00:30:04,960
this alternative community that's

885
00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:06,640
talked about i think maybe too much but

886
00:30:09,190 --> 00:30:08,240
i was curious what you thought about it

887
00:30:11,590 --> 00:30:09,200
because

888
00:30:12,389 --> 00:30:11,600
with the context of these other realms

889
00:30:14,549 --> 00:30:12,399
and

890
00:30:15,430 --> 00:30:14,559
the importance of the underlying

891
00:30:18,389 --> 00:30:15,440
structure

892
00:30:20,149 --> 00:30:18,399
it seems like in many different ways the

893
00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:20,159
argument is that the elite's

894
00:30:25,029 --> 00:30:23,039
plan is to disrupt that order disrupt

895
00:30:28,549 --> 00:30:25,039
that structure and maybe in a

896
00:30:31,750 --> 00:30:28,559
tower of babel kind of way of making a

897
00:30:33,430 --> 00:30:31,760
a bridge or tower to the realms in which

898
00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:33,440
are not physical that we're really not

899
00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:35,440
supposed to be meddling with and

900
00:30:39,669 --> 00:30:38,240
somewhat plain god and it's all kind of

901
00:30:40,549 --> 00:30:39,679
beyond me because i don't have a lot of

902
00:30:42,230 --> 00:30:40,559
sense of those

903
00:30:44,389 --> 00:30:42,240
extra realms it's all kind of a

904
00:30:45,750 --> 00:30:44,399
intellectual exercise for me but

905
00:30:48,470 --> 00:30:45,760
it does seem like the elite are

906
00:30:50,310 --> 00:30:48,480
motivated by spiritual things because

907
00:30:51,669 --> 00:30:50,320
otherwise why wouldn't they just retire

908
00:30:54,070 --> 00:30:51,679
if they were truly

909
00:30:55,510 --> 00:30:54,080
atheists who thought this is all we get

910
00:30:56,149 --> 00:30:55,520
it would be like well bill gates would

911
00:30:58,310 --> 00:30:56,159
be

912
00:30:59,590 --> 00:30:58,320
uh on little st james and he wouldn't

913
00:31:00,870 --> 00:30:59,600
you never hear from him again he

914
00:31:02,470 --> 00:31:00,880
wouldn't address any crowd he's got

915
00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:02,480
billions of dollars in the bank so

916
00:31:05,509 --> 00:31:04,080
it does seem like there's some weird

917
00:31:07,830 --> 00:31:05,519
motivations that just

918
00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:07,840
aren't ever gonna make their way into uh

919
00:31:13,190 --> 00:31:10,640
the mainstream conversation

920
00:31:13,990 --> 00:31:13,200
well let's talk about that actually

921
00:31:17,190 --> 00:31:14,000
because

922
00:31:17,750 --> 00:31:17,200
i'm far from understanding where other

923
00:31:20,950 --> 00:31:17,760
people

924
00:31:22,549 --> 00:31:20,960
are at especially what we would refer to

925
00:31:23,190 --> 00:31:22,559
as like the elites or people who are

926
00:31:26,149 --> 00:31:23,200
making

927
00:31:27,750 --> 00:31:26,159
large planetary decisions so you know

928
00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:27,760
i'm far from the finish line

929
00:31:31,190 --> 00:31:30,640
in understanding that but what i can say

930
00:31:34,870 --> 00:31:31,200
is

931
00:31:36,389 --> 00:31:34,880
the soul and everybody has their own

932
00:31:39,590 --> 00:31:36,399
opinions of what is

933
00:31:40,230 --> 00:31:39,600
good and what is necessary and so on and

934
00:31:43,830 --> 00:31:40,240
so forth

935
00:31:47,430 --> 00:31:43,840
i tend to think and feel that once you

936
00:31:48,149 --> 00:31:47,440
really truly understand esoteric

937
00:31:51,350 --> 00:31:48,159
principles

938
00:31:53,669 --> 00:31:51,360
in general you tend to

939
00:31:55,029 --> 00:31:53,679
be a little bit more cautious about what

940
00:31:57,190 --> 00:31:55,039
you're doing and try to make

941
00:31:58,789 --> 00:31:57,200
only an effect on your own life or the

942
00:32:00,870 --> 00:31:58,799
lives of those around you

943
00:32:02,630 --> 00:32:00,880
not necessarily meddling in planetary

944
00:32:04,710 --> 00:32:02,640
affairs because

945
00:32:06,470 --> 00:32:04,720
when you do that that generates a fair

946
00:32:08,149 --> 00:32:06,480
bit of karma

947
00:32:10,630 --> 00:32:08,159
you're making decisions that are going

948
00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:10,640
to impact lots and lots of individuals

949
00:32:13,669 --> 00:32:12,000
and the more that you understand about

950
00:32:15,990 --> 00:32:13,679
esotericism either from

951
00:32:18,310 --> 00:32:16,000
tibetan buddhist path or you know within

952
00:32:20,310 --> 00:32:18,320
the western esoteric tradition which is

953
00:32:21,990 --> 00:32:20,320
largely derived from hermeticism

954
00:32:24,389 --> 00:32:22,000
those are things that you want to try to

955
00:32:25,590 --> 00:32:24,399
minimize so that you can walk into your

956
00:32:28,070 --> 00:32:25,600
next incarnation

957
00:32:29,029 --> 00:32:28,080
with as much awareness as possible of

958
00:32:31,909 --> 00:32:29,039
your former

959
00:32:33,669 --> 00:32:31,919
intelligence and former incarnations so

960
00:32:35,669 --> 00:32:33,679
it seems to be something that's done in

961
00:32:37,590 --> 00:32:35,679
vast ignorance and you know there is a

962
00:32:40,549 --> 00:32:37,600
large conspiracy out there that

963
00:32:42,389 --> 00:32:40,559
the global elite are using alchemy and

964
00:32:44,149 --> 00:32:42,399
they're using magic

965
00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:44,159
very consciously and i would say no

966
00:32:47,669 --> 00:32:46,080
they're about like aleister crowley

967
00:32:49,110 --> 00:32:47,679
they know enough to be exceptionally

968
00:32:51,350 --> 00:32:49,120
dangerous and they're driven

969
00:32:53,350 --> 00:32:51,360
largely by their own egos they haven't

970
00:32:54,870 --> 00:32:53,360
done a lot of spiritual work which is to

971
00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:54,880
say discipline but they have done a lot

972
00:32:57,750 --> 00:32:56,480
of psychological work

973
00:32:59,509 --> 00:32:57,760
and so they work in the realms of

974
00:33:01,750 --> 00:32:59,519
psychological manipulation

975
00:33:02,630 --> 00:33:01,760
and you know like i've done in a couple

976
00:33:06,149 --> 00:33:02,640
of idf

977
00:33:08,950 --> 00:33:06,159
analyses with sam tripoli and with

978
00:33:10,789 --> 00:33:08,960
lindsey sherman from rogue ways and you

979
00:33:14,149 --> 00:33:10,799
know sam tripley of tinfoil hat

980
00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:14,159
what we have seen is that some of the

981
00:33:18,149 --> 00:33:14,880
beings

982
00:33:22,070 --> 00:33:18,159
that are being worked with by these

983
00:33:23,990 --> 00:33:22,080
individuals like bill gates for instance

984
00:33:25,830 --> 00:33:24,000
it may be entirely conscious or it may

985
00:33:27,990 --> 00:33:25,840
be entirely unconscious how they're

986
00:33:30,389 --> 00:33:28,000
doing it but when you're making a pact

987
00:33:31,509 --> 00:33:30,399
with a certain entity you know when

988
00:33:32,149 --> 00:33:31,519
you're working with any sort of

989
00:33:34,070 --> 00:33:32,159
aggregator

990
00:33:35,750 --> 00:33:34,080
you might serve the agricore but who

991
00:33:38,070 --> 00:33:35,760
does the agrigore serve

992
00:33:39,269 --> 00:33:38,080
and this is where you know reading mark

993
00:33:42,389 --> 00:33:39,279
stavish's book

994
00:33:44,710 --> 00:33:42,399
on evergores i think is absolutely

995
00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:44,720
critical reading for every person in the

996
00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:46,159
modern age because they need to

997
00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:46,799
understand

998
00:33:50,230 --> 00:33:48,720
that it's our agricores it's the

999
00:33:52,789 --> 00:33:50,240
thoughts that we've created that we've

1000
00:33:54,389 --> 00:33:52,799
given power to through our belief

1001
00:33:57,110 --> 00:33:54,399
systems largely

1002
00:33:57,509 --> 00:33:57,120
that have ended up shaping our destiny

1003
00:34:00,789 --> 00:33:57,519
here

1004
00:34:01,990 --> 00:34:00,799
as mankind and realistically it doesn't

1005
00:34:04,789 --> 00:34:02,000
matter whether

1006
00:34:05,750 --> 00:34:04,799
bill gates or any of these other people

1007
00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:05,760
are

1008
00:34:09,030 --> 00:34:08,720
having an agenda what matters is that if

1009
00:34:11,829 --> 00:34:09,040
you

1010
00:34:13,109 --> 00:34:11,839
are tied into the thought structures of

1011
00:34:14,869 --> 00:34:13,119
the egregors

1012
00:34:16,869 --> 00:34:14,879
which is to say anything that you have

1013
00:34:19,510 --> 00:34:16,879
ever seen that has a symbol or an image

1014
00:34:21,669 --> 00:34:19,520
that has power inside of your mind

1015
00:34:22,790 --> 00:34:21,679
as an entity so like for instance you

1016
00:34:25,829 --> 00:34:22,800
see the mcdonald's

1017
00:34:28,389 --> 00:34:25,839
arches that is an aggregator because

1018
00:34:30,149 --> 00:34:28,399
it stands for something it's just itself

1019
00:34:33,190 --> 00:34:30,159
an image but it stands for something

1020
00:34:35,589 --> 00:34:33,200
when you we are giving and empowering

1021
00:34:36,550 --> 00:34:35,599
those eggs with our money with our

1022
00:34:38,149 --> 00:34:36,560
attention

1023
00:34:39,909 --> 00:34:38,159
so on and so forth they really have a

1024
00:34:43,669 --> 00:34:39,919
tendency to run away

1025
00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:43,679
and develop an entity or a volition

1026
00:34:47,990 --> 00:34:46,240
all of their own and i think that that's

1027
00:34:48,790 --> 00:34:48,000
really what people need to understand is

1028
00:34:50,550 --> 00:34:48,800
that

1029
00:34:52,230 --> 00:34:50,560
all of us have probably heard as you

1030
00:34:53,990 --> 00:34:52,240
think so it becomes or

1031
00:34:55,750 --> 00:34:54,000
mind over matter would be another way of

1032
00:34:58,470 --> 00:34:55,760
talking about those things

1033
00:35:00,390 --> 00:34:58,480
until people are responsible enough to

1034
00:35:02,390 --> 00:35:00,400
be able to control their thoughts

1035
00:35:04,710 --> 00:35:02,400
and to be able to keep their thoughts

1036
00:35:06,550 --> 00:35:04,720
focused very particularly

1037
00:35:08,550 --> 00:35:06,560
on the things that they absolutely want

1038
00:35:09,030 --> 00:35:08,560
to create and disentangle themselves

1039
00:35:12,550 --> 00:35:09,040
from

1040
00:35:14,630 --> 00:35:12,560
sticky entities like aggregors by

1041
00:35:16,310 --> 00:35:14,640
completely eliminating beliefs because

1042
00:35:18,710 --> 00:35:16,320
beliefs are your enemy anybody who

1043
00:35:21,430 --> 00:35:18,720
offers you a belief is your enemy

1044
00:35:22,150 --> 00:35:21,440
so being able to eliminate beliefs being

1045
00:35:24,630 --> 00:35:22,160
able to use

1046
00:35:26,310 --> 00:35:24,640
thoughts and not give our power to

1047
00:35:29,349 --> 00:35:26,320
thoughts but be able to allow

1048
00:35:31,270 --> 00:35:29,359
thoughts to actually serve us

1049
00:35:33,270 --> 00:35:31,280
which is opposite than an egg or an

1050
00:35:35,190 --> 00:35:33,280
aggregator you give your belief or your

1051
00:35:37,510 --> 00:35:35,200
thought power your astral power

1052
00:35:38,710 --> 00:35:37,520
to that entity and then that entity ends

1053
00:35:40,710 --> 00:35:38,720
up taking on

1054
00:35:41,750 --> 00:35:40,720
a volition of its own and so you serve

1055
00:35:44,470 --> 00:35:41,760
the aggregor but

1056
00:35:44,870 --> 00:35:44,480
who does agregore actually serve what

1057
00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:44,880
other

1058
00:35:48,630 --> 00:35:47,040
entities interdimensional beings are

1059
00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:48,640
actually working

1060
00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:50,400
with controlling that aggregator behind

1061
00:35:53,829 --> 00:35:51,839
the scene

1062
00:35:55,829 --> 00:35:53,839
and so it really comes down to a state

1063
00:35:58,150 --> 00:35:55,839
of personal power

1064
00:35:58,870 --> 00:35:58,160
in the end where people need to reclaim

1065
00:36:04,950 --> 00:35:58,880
their

1066
00:36:06,069 --> 00:36:04,960
thoughts and not really take things very

1067
00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:06,079
personally

1068
00:36:09,190 --> 00:36:07,920
but just you know it's okay to just have

1069
00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:09,200
a thought about something that can

1070
00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:11,280
change based on further evidence

1071
00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:13,440
buying into a belief immediately puts

1072
00:36:16,710 --> 00:36:15,280
things into the hands of the agrigore

1073
00:36:18,550 --> 00:36:16,720
and the agrigore will run away with

1074
00:36:20,950 --> 00:36:18,560
things and so every commercial entity

1075
00:36:23,349 --> 00:36:20,960
that's even the legal term for it

1076
00:36:24,790 --> 00:36:23,359
has developed its own agricore and i

1077
00:36:26,470 --> 00:36:24,800
think that that's really important for

1078
00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:26,480
people to understand they need to begin

1079
00:36:31,430 --> 00:36:28,960
to disentangle from those things and

1080
00:36:33,589 --> 00:36:31,440
tap back into what is actually real and

1081
00:36:35,589 --> 00:36:33,599
tangible here in the physical world

1082
00:36:38,870 --> 00:36:35,599
and disengage from giving their power to

1083
00:36:40,950 --> 00:36:38,880
things in the astral dimension

1084
00:36:42,790 --> 00:36:40,960
good advice and let me ask you a little

1085
00:36:44,390 --> 00:36:42,800
more about thoughts in the mental realm

1086
00:36:46,230 --> 00:36:44,400
because last time we talked about the

1087
00:36:49,349 --> 00:36:46,240
alchemy of the self that

1088
00:36:51,670 --> 00:36:49,359
we start with calcination and burning

1089
00:36:54,630 --> 00:36:51,680
away our excuses for things and then

1090
00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:54,640
dissolution where the waters of our

1091
00:36:57,510 --> 00:36:55,440
emotion

1092
00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:57,520
break down through salty tears and then

1093
00:37:01,270 --> 00:36:59,040
we separate and filter

1094
00:37:02,710 --> 00:37:01,280
and distill our dreams even further

1095
00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:02,720
obviously those are the cliff notes but

1096
00:37:06,310 --> 00:37:03,760
it was all quite

1097
00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:06,320
eye opening but let me ask you about

1098
00:37:11,829 --> 00:37:08,640
aspects of the mind and thinking

1099
00:37:13,990 --> 00:37:11,839
like memory retention or accessing

1100
00:37:15,990 --> 00:37:14,000
the subconscious and unconscious mind

1101
00:37:17,589 --> 00:37:16,000
because when i talk to guests who

1102
00:37:18,550 --> 00:37:17,599
venture into the deeper parts of

1103
00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:18,560
themselves

1104
00:37:23,109 --> 00:37:21,520
they usually say that they don't use any

1105
00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:23,119
notes for an interview like this they

1106
00:37:25,990 --> 00:37:23,920
just trust

1107
00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:26,000
the flow state they can get out of their

1108
00:37:30,950 --> 00:37:28,320
own way and even off the cuff they can

1109
00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:30,960
tap into really eloquent explanations

1110
00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:31,760
and even a

1111
00:37:35,910 --> 00:37:33,680
sharper width than someone who's over

1112
00:37:36,870 --> 00:37:35,920
thought it all and many of us have heard

1113
00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:36,880
things

1114
00:37:41,589 --> 00:37:39,520
like our unconscious mind has all the

1115
00:37:43,910 --> 00:37:41,599
answers similar to a quantum computer

1116
00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:43,920
but we don't tap into it correctly

1117
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:45,599
what could be said about this sort of

1118
00:37:49,589 --> 00:37:47,280
stuff

1119
00:37:51,510 --> 00:37:49,599
well see this has always been a large

1120
00:37:53,190 --> 00:37:51,520
part of my path actually

1121
00:37:54,630 --> 00:37:53,200
having been very very interested in

1122
00:37:57,670 --> 00:37:54,640
psychic development work

1123
00:38:00,069 --> 00:37:57,680
since about 2007. i was interested

1124
00:38:02,790 --> 00:38:00,079
long before that but i got formal

1125
00:38:05,030 --> 00:38:02,800
training starting 2007

1126
00:38:06,790 --> 00:38:05,040
and i think that you know using the

1127
00:38:09,109 --> 00:38:06,800
capacity of your mind

1128
00:38:11,190 --> 00:38:09,119
is so important and there are so many

1129
00:38:13,430 --> 00:38:11,200
tools that people come up with by way of

1130
00:38:15,990 --> 00:38:13,440
technology to make

1131
00:38:17,349 --> 00:38:16,000
the mind completely obsolete computers

1132
00:38:19,109 --> 00:38:17,359
being one of those

1133
00:38:21,109 --> 00:38:19,119
so computers are great for so many

1134
00:38:21,990 --> 00:38:21,119
things of course as we've seen but look

1135
00:38:24,230 --> 00:38:22,000
at how far

1136
00:38:26,710 --> 00:38:24,240
technology is running ahead of the

1137
00:38:29,190 --> 00:38:26,720
evolution of the human race because

1138
00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:29,200
we're not developing our mind with our

1139
00:38:33,430 --> 00:38:31,440
spirit spirit being disciplined

1140
00:38:35,349 --> 00:38:33,440
at the same level at which the

1141
00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:35,359
technology is able to be

1142
00:38:38,950 --> 00:38:37,200
developed and so now we're running into

1143
00:38:40,390 --> 00:38:38,960
the very same problem that inevitably

1144
00:38:42,550 --> 00:38:40,400
every other culture will which is

1145
00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:42,560
artificial intelligence

1146
00:38:46,069 --> 00:38:44,640
which to me is profoundly unethical if

1147
00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:46,079
you haven't mastered your own

1148
00:38:49,430 --> 00:38:47,760
intelligence and know how to use the

1149
00:38:50,150 --> 00:38:49,440
entirety of your brain and know how it's

1150
00:38:52,550 --> 00:38:50,160
going to

1151
00:38:54,150 --> 00:38:52,560
evolve you know absolutely nothing about

1152
00:38:55,990 --> 00:38:54,160
how the evolution of

1153
00:38:57,430 --> 00:38:56,000
artificial intelligence will evolve on

1154
00:38:59,510 --> 00:38:57,440
its own as well

1155
00:39:01,589 --> 00:38:59,520
and so it's much more important to

1156
00:39:03,349 --> 00:39:01,599
develop a working mastery of the

1157
00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:03,359
internal mind and

1158
00:39:07,990 --> 00:39:06,240
being able to tap into all of the

1159
00:39:08,870 --> 00:39:08,000
different dimensional realities that the

1160
00:39:11,910 --> 00:39:08,880
mind has

1161
00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:11,920
the capacity to perceive before just

1162
00:39:16,150 --> 00:39:14,480
simply willy-nilly going out and

1163
00:39:17,270 --> 00:39:16,160
creating technologies that are going to

1164
00:39:19,270 --> 00:39:17,280
make that

1165
00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:19,280
easier or more accessible for lazy

1166
00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:21,040
people

1167
00:39:26,230 --> 00:39:24,400
for instance you were talking about

1168
00:39:27,670 --> 00:39:26,240
you know just going right off the cuff

1169
00:39:30,150 --> 00:39:27,680
with information

1170
00:39:31,030 --> 00:39:30,160
that is really tapping into the astral

1171
00:39:34,630 --> 00:39:31,040
so

1172
00:39:36,390 --> 00:39:34,640
grounding to help understand what the

1173
00:39:38,310 --> 00:39:36,400
astral is astral is actually best

1174
00:39:41,270 --> 00:39:38,320
defined by a question

1175
00:39:42,310 --> 00:39:41,280
what happens to every thought and

1176
00:39:45,190 --> 00:39:42,320
emotion

1177
00:39:47,349 --> 00:39:45,200
when they're done being thought or felt

1178
00:39:50,630 --> 00:39:47,359
well welcome to the astral

1179
00:39:53,109 --> 00:39:50,640
so it's a repository of

1180
00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:53,119
every thought and emotion that exists

1181
00:39:56,470 --> 00:39:53,680
and

1182
00:39:57,670 --> 00:39:56,480
of every electromagnetic interaction

1183
00:39:59,670 --> 00:39:57,680
that exists

1184
00:40:01,349 --> 00:39:59,680
happening from a planetary level as well

1185
00:40:03,349 --> 00:40:01,359
so as the planets are moving we've all

1186
00:40:05,510 --> 00:40:03,359
heard of the harmony of the spheres this

1187
00:40:07,430 --> 00:40:05,520
pythagorean concept

1188
00:40:09,750 --> 00:40:07,440
and so all of that all of that

1189
00:40:11,349 --> 00:40:09,760
information exists in the astral at the

1190
00:40:12,510 --> 00:40:11,359
higher ends of the astral it's the

1191
00:40:13,750 --> 00:40:12,520
planetary movements and the

1192
00:40:16,309 --> 00:40:13,760
electromagnetics

1193
00:40:19,030 --> 00:40:16,319
and in the lower it's where our thoughts

1194
00:40:20,630 --> 00:40:19,040
exist and paracelsus used to refer to

1195
00:40:22,630 --> 00:40:20,640
the thoughts and the emotions kind of

1196
00:40:24,309 --> 00:40:22,640
existing in the lower

1197
00:40:25,990 --> 00:40:24,319
realm of the astral that directly

1198
00:40:28,230 --> 00:40:26,000
affects the physical plane he would

1199
00:40:29,990 --> 00:40:28,240
refer to that as the archaic and today

1200
00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:30,000
most people would refer to that as the

1201
00:40:35,349 --> 00:40:31,920
etheric

1202
00:40:36,230 --> 00:40:35,359
and so if people are not able to utilize

1203
00:40:38,550 --> 00:40:36,240
their mind

1204
00:40:40,790 --> 00:40:38,560
and develop the buoyancy of mind in

1205
00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:40,800
order to visualize things that they want

1206
00:40:44,950 --> 00:40:42,319
to create

1207
00:40:45,829 --> 00:40:44,960
or not able to develop the buoyancy of

1208
00:40:49,910 --> 00:40:45,839
mind

1209
00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:49,920
to envision or sensationalize various

1210
00:40:54,150 --> 00:40:51,599
things in their lives then

1211
00:40:55,510 --> 00:40:54,160
they're not even to the point where they

1212
00:40:58,710 --> 00:40:55,520
have mastery over

1213
00:41:00,950 --> 00:40:58,720
the very lowest aspect of the astral

1214
00:41:03,349 --> 00:41:00,960
and this is really where the practices

1215
00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:03,359
of most forms of magic come in because

1216
00:41:08,470 --> 00:41:04,800
magic is very

1217
00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:08,480
not useful if you cannot sensationalize

1218
00:41:12,550 --> 00:41:10,560
and visualize things very clearly the

1219
00:41:14,230 --> 00:41:12,560
second that you are able to do that

1220
00:41:15,750 --> 00:41:14,240
through repeated discipline it's just

1221
00:41:16,550 --> 00:41:15,760
like going to the gym and working a

1222
00:41:18,470 --> 00:41:16,560
muscle

1223
00:41:20,790 --> 00:41:18,480
through repeated discipline you begin to

1224
00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:20,800
be able to sensationalize things and to

1225
00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:22,800
be able to visualize things very clearly

1226
00:41:26,230 --> 00:41:23,760
just as if

1227
00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:26,240
you were doing it in the physical realm

1228
00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:27,920
when you developed that buoyancy of mind

1229
00:41:31,109 --> 00:41:29,200
now you have access

1230
00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:31,119
to that level of the astral you have

1231
00:41:34,790 --> 00:41:32,240
access to

1232
00:41:36,790 --> 00:41:34,800
the higher levels of the astral than two

1233
00:41:39,349 --> 00:41:36,800
which would be visualizing understanding

1234
00:41:42,309 --> 00:41:39,359
hearing sensationalizing perceiving

1235
00:41:42,710 --> 00:41:42,319
the harmony of the spheres so to speak

1236
00:41:45,030 --> 00:41:42,720
or

1237
00:41:45,910 --> 00:41:45,040
the planetary frequencies that were

1238
00:41:47,990 --> 00:41:45,920
spoken about

1239
00:41:49,589 --> 00:41:48,000
so long ago by pythagoras and his

1240
00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:49,599
followers and followed down through the

1241
00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:50,400
platonic and

1242
00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:54,240
aristotelian tradition of the greeks

1243
00:41:58,069 --> 00:41:56,880
and you know the chinese also have their

1244
00:41:59,829 --> 00:41:58,079
own version of that and

1245
00:42:01,349 --> 00:41:59,839
so do so many of the ancient great

1246
00:42:03,109 --> 00:42:01,359
cultures the mayans of course the

1247
00:42:04,309 --> 00:42:03,119
egyptians and so on and so forth

1248
00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:04,319
they just have a slightly different

1249
00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:06,560
cultural understanding

1250
00:42:11,910 --> 00:42:09,599
of those planetary frequencies but

1251
00:42:13,750 --> 00:42:11,920
they're all corroborating and saying

1252
00:42:15,190 --> 00:42:13,760
exactly the same thing

1253
00:42:16,950 --> 00:42:15,200
and then once you've been able to do

1254
00:42:19,190 --> 00:42:16,960
that then you take a look at

1255
00:42:21,030 --> 00:42:19,200
people who are able to tap into the

1256
00:42:22,470 --> 00:42:21,040
causal plane and understand cause and

1257
00:42:25,430 --> 00:42:22,480
effect of actions by

1258
00:42:26,630 --> 00:42:25,440
looking at the lower causal if something

1259
00:42:29,109 --> 00:42:26,640
happens now

1260
00:42:29,829 --> 00:42:29,119
what is likely to happen down the line

1261
00:42:32,069 --> 00:42:29,839
if

1262
00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:32,079
that pattern of information is not

1263
00:42:36,950 --> 00:42:34,560
disrupted or interrupted

1264
00:42:37,829 --> 00:42:36,960
and then of course moving into oneness

1265
00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:37,839
and unity

1266
00:42:41,990 --> 00:42:40,800
vision basically and being able to see

1267
00:42:44,069 --> 00:42:42,000
how everything really does

1268
00:42:46,069 --> 00:42:44,079
source from one and what its points of

1269
00:42:47,750 --> 00:42:46,079
differentiation are but what its thread

1270
00:42:50,550 --> 00:42:47,760
of similarity is

1271
00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:50,560
and until somebody can really perceive

1272
00:42:55,589 --> 00:42:52,079
all of those different things

1273
00:42:56,150 --> 00:42:55,599
through their mind alone they are going

1274
00:42:58,230 --> 00:42:56,160
to be

1275
00:42:59,990 --> 00:42:58,240
really stuck in the physical dimension

1276
00:43:01,990 --> 00:43:00,000
they're going to end up being

1277
00:43:03,190 --> 00:43:02,000
for lack of a better term always some

1278
00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:03,200
muggle

1279
00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:04,960
you won't be able to manifest things

1280
00:43:08,150 --> 00:43:06,560
very clearly you'll develop thoughts

1281
00:43:09,030 --> 00:43:08,160
that are oftentimes wrong you'll give

1282
00:43:11,349 --> 00:43:09,040
your power to

1283
00:43:13,270 --> 00:43:11,359
belief systems instead of thoughts and

1284
00:43:15,270 --> 00:43:13,280
instead of working things out rationally

1285
00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:15,280
and so on and so forth because

1286
00:43:18,390 --> 00:43:17,200
you just simply don't have the

1287
00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:18,400
discipline or haven't

1288
00:43:22,470 --> 00:43:20,480
cultivated the discipline to be able to

1289
00:43:25,510 --> 00:43:22,480
operate in those higher

1290
00:43:28,309 --> 00:43:25,520
more subtle dimensions and so everybody

1291
00:43:28,710 --> 00:43:28,319
has the capacity to do this it's just

1292
00:43:31,349 --> 00:43:28,720
that

1293
00:43:32,069 --> 00:43:31,359
it takes the volition or the will of the

1294
00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:32,079
individual

1295
00:43:37,589 --> 00:43:34,000
in order to be able to do this and so

1296
00:43:39,670 --> 00:43:37,599
yeah practices like the memory palace

1297
00:43:41,510 --> 00:43:39,680
where you hold a visualization as a

1298
00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:41,520
meditation that you're inside of a

1299
00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:43,760
palace and you take a memory consciously

1300
00:43:47,109 --> 00:43:45,520
with all of the feelings all of the

1301
00:43:49,990 --> 00:43:47,119
thoughts all of the emotions

1302
00:43:51,910 --> 00:43:50,000
and you make it tangible in your

1303
00:43:54,470 --> 00:43:51,920
meditation into something that you can

1304
00:43:56,950 --> 00:43:54,480
go back to and touch so for me i like to

1305
00:43:59,270 --> 00:43:56,960
store mine in little crystal balls

1306
00:44:00,790 --> 00:43:59,280
and i store thousands and thousands and

1307
00:44:02,470 --> 00:44:00,800
thousands you know probably millions at

1308
00:44:03,190 --> 00:44:02,480
this point of little crystal balls

1309
00:44:06,309 --> 00:44:03,200
inside of

1310
00:44:07,829 --> 00:44:06,319
a large castle with many many rooms and

1311
00:44:10,309 --> 00:44:07,839
depending on which floor

1312
00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:10,319
there's only four floors to this castle

1313
00:44:13,990 --> 00:44:11,200
in my

1314
00:44:15,910 --> 00:44:14,000
particular form i store everything in

1315
00:44:17,349 --> 00:44:15,920
sort of a dimensional file folder is

1316
00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:17,359
this a spiritual experience because if

1317
00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:18,880
so it goes on the fourth floor

1318
00:44:22,550 --> 00:44:21,200
if not is it a causal experience then it

1319
00:44:23,190 --> 00:44:22,560
goes on the third floor an astral

1320
00:44:24,550 --> 00:44:23,200
experience

1321
00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:24,560
on the second floor of physical

1322
00:44:29,190 --> 00:44:26,640
experience on the first floor

1323
00:44:30,309 --> 00:44:29,200
and i find a room that meets the

1324
00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:30,319
necessity

1325
00:44:34,150 --> 00:44:32,880
of the type of memory that it is within

1326
00:44:36,069 --> 00:44:34,160
the physical and then

1327
00:44:37,670 --> 00:44:36,079
or within the astral or whatever else

1328
00:44:39,670 --> 00:44:37,680
and then i go in and i create

1329
00:44:41,190 --> 00:44:39,680
a little crystal ball that holds all of

1330
00:44:42,870 --> 00:44:41,200
that information anytime i want to

1331
00:44:44,790 --> 00:44:42,880
recall that information

1332
00:44:46,710 --> 00:44:44,800
i just simply visualize myself going

1333
00:44:47,589 --> 00:44:46,720
into that room picking up the crystal

1334
00:44:49,589 --> 00:44:47,599
and reading it

1335
00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:49,599
psychically but it could easily just be

1336
00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:51,760
a visualization of a book or

1337
00:44:55,030 --> 00:44:54,160
you know anything but once you start

1338
00:44:57,589 --> 00:44:55,040
working on

1339
00:44:58,390 --> 00:44:57,599
those levels of mental buoyancy what

1340
00:45:02,309 --> 00:44:58,400
most people

1341
00:45:04,230 --> 00:45:02,319
perceive as super human powers or

1342
00:45:05,910 --> 00:45:04,240
powers that most humans don't have and

1343
00:45:07,990 --> 00:45:05,920
you're just singularly gifted

1344
00:45:09,670 --> 00:45:08,000
it's actually able to be developed by

1345
00:45:11,270 --> 00:45:09,680
absolutely anybody it just takes

1346
00:45:12,950 --> 00:45:11,280
practice just like anything else you

1347
00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:12,960
can't go into the gym and start

1348
00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:15,520
bench pressing six plates on each side

1349
00:45:18,710 --> 00:45:16,240
but

1350
00:45:19,750 --> 00:45:18,720
even six plates would be very intense

1351
00:45:21,430 --> 00:45:19,760
for a bench press but

1352
00:45:23,589 --> 00:45:21,440
still my point is you can't just go in

1353
00:45:24,390 --> 00:45:23,599
there and start stacking up a ton of

1354
00:45:26,870 --> 00:45:24,400
weight

1355
00:45:28,230 --> 00:45:26,880
you have to start slow and you have to

1356
00:45:29,750 --> 00:45:28,240
start from where you're at

1357
00:45:31,510 --> 00:45:29,760
in order to actually build the lean

1358
00:45:32,069 --> 00:45:31,520
muscle that's going to continue to build

1359
00:45:34,230 --> 00:45:32,079
strength

1360
00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:34,240
and the same is true with our psychic

1361
00:45:38,470 --> 00:45:36,000
faculties or what is sometimes referred

1362
00:45:40,630 --> 00:45:38,480
to as our mental faculties

1363
00:45:42,870 --> 00:45:40,640
well that's a good breakdown and uh you

1364
00:45:43,510 --> 00:45:42,880
make me realize just how lazy i have

1365
00:45:46,230 --> 00:45:43,520
been

1366
00:45:48,470 --> 00:45:46,240
but and this is a this is a hell of a

1367
00:45:51,030 --> 00:45:48,480
segue but on the subject of brains or

1368
00:45:53,750 --> 00:45:51,040
really neural networks you have a recent

1369
00:45:55,829 --> 00:45:53,760
blog titled agricultural concepts and

1370
00:45:57,829 --> 00:45:55,839
tips written for a newbie performing

1371
00:45:58,630 --> 00:45:57,839
no-till agriculture and some of the

1372
00:46:00,069 --> 00:45:58,640
advice

1373
00:46:02,630 --> 00:46:00,079
is things this audience would be

1374
00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:02,640
familiar with like don't follow the mono

1375
00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:03,920
crop method

1376
00:46:07,270 --> 00:46:06,400
use composting but i thought this was

1377
00:46:09,910 --> 00:46:07,280
interesting

1378
00:46:12,069 --> 00:46:09,920
keep your fungal network intact by

1379
00:46:12,870 --> 00:46:12,079
disrupting the soil as little as you

1380
00:46:15,510 --> 00:46:12,880
need to

1381
00:46:16,150 --> 00:46:15,520
this is the neural network of the soil

1382
00:46:18,630 --> 00:46:16,160
and if you

1383
00:46:19,589 --> 00:46:18,640
establish a strong fungal network then

1384
00:46:21,990 --> 00:46:19,599
the fungi

1385
00:46:22,790 --> 00:46:22,000
will actually distribute your nutrients

1386
00:46:24,790 --> 00:46:22,800
for you

1387
00:46:26,790 --> 00:46:24,800
this makes it so you can be growing

1388
00:46:29,430 --> 00:46:26,800
beans in one part of the garden

1389
00:46:31,829 --> 00:46:29,440
and the nitrogen being fixed in the soil

1390
00:46:32,710 --> 00:46:31,839
can travel over large distances to the

1391
00:46:35,910 --> 00:46:32,720
tomatoes

1392
00:46:37,990 --> 00:46:35,920
grown on the other end of the garden and

1393
00:46:40,230 --> 00:46:38,000
that's a big wow man i have listened to

1394
00:46:40,870 --> 00:46:40,240
guys like paul stamets and terence

1395
00:46:42,630 --> 00:46:40,880
mckenna

1396
00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:42,640
enough to know that there is a real

1397
00:46:47,030 --> 00:46:44,560
intelligence and importance to

1398
00:46:49,829 --> 00:46:47,040
fungi and mushrooms but maybe you can

1399
00:46:53,190 --> 00:46:49,839
elaborate on that importance

1400
00:46:56,230 --> 00:46:53,200
sure yeah so fungi

1401
00:46:57,270 --> 00:46:56,240
they form these really awesome mycelial

1402
00:47:01,109 --> 00:46:57,280
nets

1403
00:47:04,309 --> 00:47:01,119
thousands and

1404
00:47:05,829 --> 00:47:04,319
thousands of branches that go all over

1405
00:47:08,829 --> 00:47:05,839
underneath the soil

1406
00:47:10,150 --> 00:47:08,839
and they send not only electromagnetic

1407
00:47:12,150 --> 00:47:10,160
information

1408
00:47:14,069 --> 00:47:12,160
so like for instance if there's a tree

1409
00:47:15,829 --> 00:47:14,079
that is a little bit drought stricken in

1410
00:47:17,030 --> 00:47:15,839
a certain area of the yard just as long

1411
00:47:18,710 --> 00:47:17,040
as the

1412
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:18,720
fungi is still intact underneath the

1413
00:47:23,270 --> 00:47:20,880
soil what ends up happening is that

1414
00:47:24,870 --> 00:47:23,280
the root hormones or the endocrine

1415
00:47:27,510 --> 00:47:24,880
system basically of the tree

1416
00:47:28,950 --> 00:47:27,520
ends up corresponding with the neural

1417
00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:28,960
network of the fungi

1418
00:47:32,309 --> 00:47:30,720
which will then go around to all of the

1419
00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:32,319
rest of the plants that are connected

1420
00:47:34,230 --> 00:47:33,760
and then all of the rest of the plants

1421
00:47:35,990 --> 00:47:34,240
will say

1422
00:47:37,589 --> 00:47:36,000
you know what we all have a little bit

1423
00:47:38,870 --> 00:47:37,599
of moisture that we can offer we've got

1424
00:47:40,950 --> 00:47:38,880
a little bit of excess and then they

1425
00:47:43,990 --> 00:47:40,960
send it back to the tree

1426
00:47:45,670 --> 00:47:44,000
so nutrients and moisture

1427
00:47:47,829 --> 00:47:45,680
and other things can be sent through

1428
00:47:50,549 --> 00:47:47,839
this neural network in addition to

1429
00:47:52,309 --> 00:47:50,559
electromagnetic frequencies that connect

1430
00:47:54,790 --> 00:47:52,319
everything underneath the soil

1431
00:47:55,910 --> 00:47:54,800
and so it's absolutely critical in order

1432
00:47:58,390 --> 00:47:55,920
to

1433
00:47:59,190 --> 00:47:58,400
have healthy ecology or agriculture of

1434
00:48:02,150 --> 00:47:59,200
any sort

1435
00:48:02,870 --> 00:48:02,160
to focus very heavily on developing and

1436
00:48:05,829 --> 00:48:02,880
maintaining

1437
00:48:08,630 --> 00:48:05,839
and creating a heavy structure for that

1438
00:48:11,430 --> 00:48:08,640
fungi so that it can be created

1439
00:48:12,950 --> 00:48:11,440
i like to refer to it as the internet

1440
00:48:15,990 --> 00:48:12,960
basically of the soil

1441
00:48:17,510 --> 00:48:16,000
is that it creates and interfaces and

1442
00:48:21,030 --> 00:48:17,520
allows people to or

1443
00:48:22,790 --> 00:48:21,040
the members of the garden to be able to

1444
00:48:24,790 --> 00:48:22,800
connect with one another in a way that

1445
00:48:26,549 --> 00:48:24,800
is relevant and meaningful

1446
00:48:29,109 --> 00:48:26,559
and you know of course the internet

1447
00:48:31,829 --> 00:48:29,119
itself is just an astral invention

1448
00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:31,839
the concepts of telepathy are just

1449
00:48:35,589 --> 00:48:32,640
equally as

1450
00:48:36,150 --> 00:48:35,599
effective actually and even more so

1451
00:48:38,630 --> 00:48:36,160
because

1452
00:48:39,589 --> 00:48:38,640
you don't have to spend time physically

1453
00:48:41,190 --> 00:48:39,599
programming in

1454
00:48:42,950 --> 00:48:41,200
programs and doing all these things the

1455
00:48:44,230 --> 00:48:42,960
mind is much more buoyant than any sort

1456
00:48:47,910 --> 00:48:44,240
of computer

1457
00:48:48,950 --> 00:48:47,920
but being able to have that kind of

1458
00:48:50,630 --> 00:48:48,960
connection

1459
00:48:52,390 --> 00:48:50,640
is really something that's very

1460
00:48:54,150 --> 00:48:52,400
enriching as we're all seeing you know

1461
00:48:56,549 --> 00:48:54,160
everybody here is connecting through the

1462
00:49:00,150 --> 00:48:56,559
internet right now to these ideas

1463
00:49:01,589 --> 00:49:00,160
and so the mycelium is basically just

1464
00:49:03,190 --> 00:49:01,599
the network of doing that

1465
00:49:05,349 --> 00:49:03,200
and there already is a network above

1466
00:49:07,270 --> 00:49:05,359
ground doing that as well

1467
00:49:09,510 --> 00:49:07,280
that would be known as the breath and

1468
00:49:11,829 --> 00:49:09,520
this is why everything that breathes in

1469
00:49:14,069 --> 00:49:11,839
is really important you know as we

1470
00:49:14,549 --> 00:49:14,079
breathe out the trees and plants breathe

1471
00:49:16,549 --> 00:49:14,559
in so

1472
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:16,559
we exhale carbon dioxide they breathe in

1473
00:49:20,790 --> 00:49:18,480
that carbon dioxide they breathe out the

1474
00:49:22,710 --> 00:49:20,800
oxygen we breathe in the oxygen

1475
00:49:24,790 --> 00:49:22,720
and same thing with the animals and

1476
00:49:26,309 --> 00:49:24,800
everything else everything is connected

1477
00:49:27,990 --> 00:49:26,319
realistically through its breath

1478
00:49:29,990 --> 00:49:28,000
even the oxygen that is sucked out of

1479
00:49:33,349 --> 00:49:30,000
water through the gills of aquatic

1480
00:49:35,270 --> 00:49:33,359
life is indelibly intertwined to the air

1481
00:49:38,150 --> 00:49:35,280
that is above the surface

1482
00:49:39,589 --> 00:49:38,160
as well that you know falls as a result

1483
00:49:41,349 --> 00:49:39,599
you know like for instance all of the

1484
00:49:43,030 --> 00:49:41,359
oxygen that gets into the ocean is

1485
00:49:44,950 --> 00:49:43,040
really from the waves crashing and

1486
00:49:47,109 --> 00:49:44,960
capturing tiny amounts

1487
00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:47,119
of air inside of these pockets of water

1488
00:49:50,309 --> 00:49:49,280
as they crash and it begins to oxygenate

1489
00:49:53,109 --> 00:49:50,319
the water

1490
00:49:53,670 --> 00:49:53,119
and through rivers flowing you know you

1491
00:49:55,430 --> 00:49:53,680
see

1492
00:49:57,270 --> 00:49:55,440
water flowing over a rock or down a

1493
00:49:59,510 --> 00:49:57,280
waterfall and at the end of that there's

1494
00:50:00,790 --> 00:49:59,520
a tremendous amount of oxygen that is

1495
00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:00,800
giving life

1496
00:50:04,870 --> 00:50:03,760
to the rest of the water and so you know

1497
00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:04,880
these networks are

1498
00:50:07,990 --> 00:50:07,200
completely in place it's just that we

1499
00:50:09,910 --> 00:50:08,000
need to

1500
00:50:11,349 --> 00:50:09,920
tap into them and focus on tapping into

1501
00:50:13,270 --> 00:50:11,359
them that's why

1502
00:50:14,630 --> 00:50:13,280
you know like my own path of celtic

1503
00:50:17,750 --> 00:50:14,640
inspired druidry

1504
00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:17,760
calls so heavily to me because

1505
00:50:21,430 --> 00:50:19,520
it's all about focusing on these

1506
00:50:24,549 --> 00:50:21,440
inherent connections

1507
00:50:25,990 --> 00:50:24,559
that nature already has provided and

1508
00:50:28,150 --> 00:50:26,000
learning how to with our

1509
00:50:29,750 --> 00:50:28,160
intelligence interface with those

1510
00:50:31,190 --> 00:50:29,760
connections so that we can understand

1511
00:50:33,750 --> 00:50:31,200
perceive and work with

1512
00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:33,760
the rest of nature and not be an alien

1513
00:50:38,069 --> 00:50:35,520
to it

1514
00:50:38,710 --> 00:50:38,079
yes well said and i find these systems

1515
00:50:41,270 --> 00:50:38,720
to be

1516
00:50:43,109 --> 00:50:41,280
so interesting probably because they are

1517
00:50:45,670 --> 00:50:43,119
so alien and foreign

1518
00:50:47,510 --> 00:50:45,680
and you mentioned your intrinsic data

1519
00:50:49,829 --> 00:50:47,520
field work and i wanted to bring this up

1520
00:50:51,270 --> 00:50:49,839
because on the last episode we did i saw

1521
00:50:53,190 --> 00:50:51,280
a comment thread where

1522
00:50:55,270 --> 00:50:53,200
a guy named tom was asking you more

1523
00:50:57,430 --> 00:50:55,280
about the intrinsic data field work

1524
00:50:59,030 --> 00:50:57,440
and you had a reply that sort of relates

1525
00:50:59,589 --> 00:50:59,040
to the stuff we're talking about saying

1526
00:51:01,990 --> 00:50:59,599
that

1527
00:51:04,230 --> 00:51:02,000
the german government used it for years

1528
00:51:06,069 --> 00:51:04,240
in their forestry department before the

1529
00:51:06,710 --> 00:51:06,079
current administration defunded the

1530
00:51:08,630 --> 00:51:06,720
program

1531
00:51:10,870 --> 00:51:08,640
they were able to analyze and send

1532
00:51:11,670 --> 00:51:10,880
frequency remedies to the forest to

1533
00:51:14,790 --> 00:51:11,680
prevent

1534
00:51:16,710 --> 00:51:14,800
a borel diseases and to learn about

1535
00:51:19,190 --> 00:51:16,720
high-risk areas in the forest without

1536
00:51:20,230 --> 00:51:19,200
needing to send physical units on site

1537
00:51:22,630 --> 00:51:20,240
for inspection

1538
00:51:23,990 --> 00:51:22,640
it saved tons of time and money but the

1539
00:51:26,950 --> 00:51:24,000
new administration was

1540
00:51:28,870 --> 00:51:26,960
all about producing more jobs and so

1541
00:51:29,270 --> 00:51:28,880
they defunded the program allowing them

1542
00:51:32,069 --> 00:51:29,280
to

1543
00:51:33,190 --> 00:51:32,079
contract liberty link pesticides in a

1544
00:51:35,109 --> 00:51:33,200
government contract

1545
00:51:37,030 --> 00:51:35,119
which gives them a ton of money and back

1546
00:51:39,270 --> 00:51:37,040
end investment opportunities

1547
00:51:40,150 --> 00:51:39,280
very corrupt abuse of government money

1548
00:51:42,549 --> 00:51:40,160
for the profit

1549
00:51:43,430 --> 00:51:42,559
of both agricultural corporations and

1550
00:51:45,750 --> 00:51:43,440
governmental

1551
00:51:47,270 --> 00:51:45,760
officials private investments so yeah

1552
00:51:48,950 --> 00:51:47,280
the the pesticide stuff

1553
00:51:51,109 --> 00:51:48,960
we see those kind of deals getting made

1554
00:51:52,710 --> 00:51:51,119
all the time and it really sucks but

1555
00:51:54,710 --> 00:51:52,720
i guess the important point to me is

1556
00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:54,720
that this is stuff that has been used

1557
00:51:57,670 --> 00:51:55,440
before

1558
00:51:59,670 --> 00:51:57,680
they can't claim ignorance because we

1559
00:52:01,109 --> 00:51:59,680
have examples like you mentioned here

1560
00:52:05,349 --> 00:52:01,119
the german government

1561
00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:05,359
used this sort of esoteric technology

1562
00:52:09,109 --> 00:52:08,240
to uh shepherd the land i i think that's

1563
00:52:12,549 --> 00:52:09,119
really

1564
00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:12,559
interesting yeah it sounds like you're

1565
00:52:17,670 --> 00:52:14,720
talking about cordisi tom

1566
00:52:18,870 --> 00:52:17,680
that was a really awesome thing because

1567
00:52:21,430 --> 00:52:18,880
you know so many people

1568
00:52:23,910 --> 00:52:21,440
think when they hear about this idf

1569
00:52:26,230 --> 00:52:23,920
technology that it's you know like

1570
00:52:27,910 --> 00:52:26,240
oftentimes people say like who are you

1571
00:52:29,430 --> 00:52:27,920
talking to who are you channeling with

1572
00:52:31,270 --> 00:52:29,440
that instrument it's like no it doesn't

1573
00:52:33,510 --> 00:52:31,280
work like that actually

1574
00:52:35,510 --> 00:52:33,520
you can do the exact same thing through

1575
00:52:37,190 --> 00:52:35,520
kinesiological interface but what you're

1576
00:52:39,109 --> 00:52:37,200
doing is you're tapping into the quantum

1577
00:52:42,470 --> 00:52:39,119
which is the spiritual unity

1578
00:52:44,309 --> 00:52:42,480
field this quantum field

1579
00:52:46,230 --> 00:52:44,319
or what we would refer to as intrinsic

1580
00:52:47,270 --> 00:52:46,240
data field or what rupert sheldrake

1581
00:52:51,109 --> 00:52:47,280
would refer to

1582
00:52:53,190 --> 00:52:51,119
as morphogenetic field or morphic fields

1583
00:52:54,870 --> 00:52:53,200
is all really the exact same thing that

1584
00:52:57,109 --> 00:52:54,880
people have been using for centuries

1585
00:52:58,069 --> 00:52:57,119
when people communicate using telepathy

1586
00:53:00,230 --> 00:52:58,079
they're not using

1587
00:53:01,190 --> 00:53:00,240
a spiritual messenger to go and deliver

1588
00:53:03,030 --> 00:53:01,200
the message

1589
00:53:05,349 --> 00:53:03,040
they're connecting through the ethers

1590
00:53:06,790 --> 00:53:05,359
basically through the energy network

1591
00:53:08,630 --> 00:53:06,800
that already exists

1592
00:53:11,270 --> 00:53:08,640
and they're just simply tuning in to the

1593
00:53:14,549 --> 00:53:11,280
same frequency from their crown chakra

1594
00:53:16,630 --> 00:53:14,559
so really the techniques for this are

1595
00:53:19,109 --> 00:53:16,640
not that difficult to develop

1596
00:53:22,150 --> 00:53:19,119
and you know the reason that i am

1597
00:53:25,349 --> 00:53:22,160
choosing to use an intrinsic data field

1598
00:53:27,750 --> 00:53:25,359
analyzer like the se5 2000 these days

1599
00:53:29,670 --> 00:53:27,760
is because i need to be able to show

1600
00:53:30,870 --> 00:53:29,680
instrumentation and train people in

1601
00:53:33,190 --> 00:53:30,880
instrumentation

1602
00:53:34,230 --> 00:53:33,200
so that in the physical we can actually

1603
00:53:36,150 --> 00:53:34,240
begin to progress

1604
00:53:37,910 --> 00:53:36,160
forwards with the way that we analyze

1605
00:53:40,549 --> 00:53:37,920
and harness data and it's a great

1606
00:53:42,710 --> 00:53:40,559
stepping stone and a great tool for that

1607
00:53:44,390 --> 00:53:42,720
but you can do this with dowsing rods

1608
00:53:44,950 --> 00:53:44,400
you can do this with a pendulum you can

1609
00:53:46,710 --> 00:53:44,960
do this

1610
00:53:47,990 --> 00:53:46,720
with uh god what the hell are the name

1611
00:53:50,150 --> 00:53:48,000
of those machines that

1612
00:53:51,510 --> 00:53:50,160
you squeeze it and it tells you how many

1613
00:53:53,510 --> 00:53:51,520
pounds of pressure you have

1614
00:53:55,190 --> 00:53:53,520
inside of your grip strength you could

1615
00:53:57,589 --> 00:53:55,200
do that with tons of different types of

1616
00:53:59,589 --> 00:53:57,599
things and perform kinesiology

1617
00:54:01,349 --> 00:53:59,599
anybody who wants to learn more about

1618
00:54:04,790 --> 00:54:01,359
this should start off with the books

1619
00:54:06,790 --> 00:54:04,800
of dr david hawkins who created a book

1620
00:54:08,309 --> 00:54:06,800
called power versus force and he has a

1621
00:54:09,510 --> 00:54:08,319
number of different ones power versus

1622
00:54:12,150 --> 00:54:09,520
force he has

1623
00:54:13,430 --> 00:54:12,160
the eye the eye of the eye like so many

1624
00:54:15,910 --> 00:54:13,440
different books

1625
00:54:17,109 --> 00:54:15,920
dr wayne dyer actually brought this work

1626
00:54:19,589 --> 00:54:17,119
into the public eye by

1627
00:54:21,510 --> 00:54:19,599
discussing his foundational work in a

1628
00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:21,520
lot of his own

1629
00:54:25,990 --> 00:54:24,400
works and when he got popularized

1630
00:54:28,309 --> 00:54:26,000
sometime in the 90s or something that's

1631
00:54:30,150 --> 00:54:28,319
how that information kind of came out

1632
00:54:32,309 --> 00:54:30,160
and that's actually even how i became

1633
00:54:35,430 --> 00:54:32,319
aware of dr david hawkins work

1634
00:54:38,230 --> 00:54:35,440
but kinesiology is a very reliable tool

1635
00:54:40,069 --> 00:54:38,240
that many chiropractors and alternative

1636
00:54:41,670 --> 00:54:40,079
wellness care practitioners or even

1637
00:54:43,670 --> 00:54:41,680
health care practitioners

1638
00:54:45,829 --> 00:54:43,680
are able to be able to use in order to

1639
00:54:46,870 --> 00:54:45,839
diagnose diseases and so many other

1640
00:54:49,990 --> 00:54:46,880
things and

1641
00:54:51,750 --> 00:54:50,000
find methods of treatment in fact you

1642
00:54:53,829 --> 00:54:51,760
know the very same technology that we're

1643
00:54:57,270 --> 00:54:53,839
using right now as a stick pad

1644
00:54:58,150 --> 00:54:57,280
with most radionics materials radionics

1645
00:55:00,950 --> 00:54:58,160
is another term

1646
00:55:01,349 --> 00:55:00,960
for the instrumentation that's necessary

1647
00:55:03,589 --> 00:55:01,359
to

1648
00:55:04,549 --> 00:55:03,599
interact with the intrinsic data field

1649
00:55:06,710 --> 00:55:04,559
the stick pad

1650
00:55:07,910 --> 00:55:06,720
actually goes back to african shamans

1651
00:55:11,109 --> 00:55:07,920
where they would

1652
00:55:12,789 --> 00:55:11,119
grab a block and polish it down and sand

1653
00:55:14,390 --> 00:55:12,799
it really finely to the point where they

1654
00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:14,400
could rub their fingers on it with

1655
00:55:17,829 --> 00:55:16,240
virtually no friction if they ask no

1656
00:55:19,190 --> 00:55:17,839
questions you could rub your fingers on

1657
00:55:21,109 --> 00:55:19,200
it in perpetuity

1658
00:55:23,750 --> 00:55:21,119
if you ask a question and the answer is

1659
00:55:25,670 --> 00:55:23,760
yes your fingers will stick

1660
00:55:27,670 --> 00:55:25,680
and if you ask a question the answer is

1661
00:55:29,430 --> 00:55:27,680
no then your fingers will continue to

1662
00:55:32,309 --> 00:55:29,440
rub in perpetuity because again

1663
00:55:33,750 --> 00:55:32,319
0 is an infinity and that means no 1

1664
00:55:35,349 --> 00:55:33,760
ends the circuit

1665
00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:35,359
and that means yes because it's a

1666
00:55:40,069 --> 00:55:37,440
segment has a beginning and an end

1667
00:55:41,990 --> 00:55:40,079
and so you're basically tapping into the

1668
00:55:43,910 --> 00:55:42,000
causal plane to be able to find out

1669
00:55:45,750 --> 00:55:43,920
answers of yes or no and these african

1670
00:55:47,430 --> 00:55:45,760
bushmen shamans would

1671
00:55:49,270 --> 00:55:47,440
take a sick patient for instance and

1672
00:55:51,430 --> 00:55:49,280
stick an herb next to them

1673
00:55:53,030 --> 00:55:51,440
and rub the block and if their finger

1674
00:55:54,789 --> 00:55:53,040
doesn't stick with that herb then they

1675
00:55:55,910 --> 00:55:54,799
would trade out another herb and another

1676
00:55:58,230 --> 00:55:55,920
herb and another herb

1677
00:55:59,430 --> 00:55:58,240
until it's stuck and then that herb

1678
00:56:00,870 --> 00:55:59,440
would be the thing that they would

1679
00:56:01,829 --> 00:56:00,880
ultimately administer to the sick

1680
00:56:05,030 --> 00:56:01,839
individual

1681
00:56:05,670 --> 00:56:05,040
in order to cure the disease and so our

1682
00:56:08,710 --> 00:56:05,680
bodies

1683
00:56:12,390 --> 00:56:08,720
innately are already connecting in

1684
00:56:15,349 --> 00:56:12,400
on a muscular and beyond muscular level

1685
00:56:17,109 --> 00:56:15,359
to what is already inherently true it's

1686
00:56:18,309 --> 00:56:17,119
our minds and our ego that are usually

1687
00:56:20,309 --> 00:56:18,319
getting in the way

1688
00:56:21,829 --> 00:56:20,319
and with intrinsic data filled

1689
00:56:23,430 --> 00:56:21,839
technology

1690
00:56:25,589 --> 00:56:23,440
we're basically using that same thing

1691
00:56:27,910 --> 00:56:25,599
the only difference is that we have

1692
00:56:29,030 --> 00:56:27,920
numerical dials to be able to create

1693
00:56:32,150 --> 00:56:29,040
some sort of

1694
00:56:34,230 --> 00:56:32,160
amplitude calibration to understand more

1695
00:56:35,829 --> 00:56:34,240
about the information than just yes or

1696
00:56:39,190 --> 00:56:35,839
no and

1697
00:56:41,109 --> 00:56:39,200
in the future it's my hope that

1698
00:56:43,589 --> 00:56:41,119
the technology begins to be advanced so

1699
00:56:46,069 --> 00:56:43,599
that we can move into

1700
00:56:47,750 --> 00:56:46,079
more complex types of forming so just

1701
00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:47,760
like everything that you see on your

1702
00:56:52,950 --> 00:56:49,920
computer right now is actually

1703
00:56:54,630 --> 00:56:52,960
at its source zeros and ones so

1704
00:56:56,230 --> 00:56:54,640
basically you look at the form of the

1705
00:56:58,470 --> 00:56:56,240
program that you're looking at right now

1706
00:56:59,829 --> 00:56:58,480
behind that it's short code behind that

1707
00:57:01,270 --> 00:56:59,839
it's binary

1708
00:57:03,270 --> 00:57:01,280
the very same thing is true with our

1709
00:57:04,630 --> 00:57:03,280
physical reality the physical reality is

1710
00:57:06,309 --> 00:57:04,640
like the program that you see and

1711
00:57:08,309 --> 00:57:06,319
interact with but behind that

1712
00:57:09,829 --> 00:57:08,319
is short code which is the astral or

1713
00:57:11,750 --> 00:57:09,839
platonic functions

1714
00:57:13,670 --> 00:57:11,760
and behind that is really the principle

1715
00:57:16,950 --> 00:57:13,680
of the celestial salt and niter

1716
00:57:19,190 --> 00:57:16,960
of the causal plane and if we can

1717
00:57:20,789 --> 00:57:19,200
begin to interact like that then i think

1718
00:57:24,230 --> 00:57:20,799
a lot of people

1719
00:57:26,470 --> 00:57:24,240
will begin to see that we can evolve

1720
00:57:27,510 --> 00:57:26,480
much greater and much more naturally

1721
00:57:29,510 --> 00:57:27,520
than

1722
00:57:30,950 --> 00:57:29,520
what was ever conceived before and for

1723
00:57:32,789 --> 00:57:30,960
my part that's really

1724
00:57:35,030 --> 00:57:32,799
the message that i want to drive home to

1725
00:57:37,990 --> 00:57:35,040
individuals is you are not limited

1726
00:57:38,950 --> 00:57:38,000
in your evolution to the technologies

1727
00:57:40,870 --> 00:57:38,960
that are created

1728
00:57:42,710 --> 00:57:40,880
actually you are only limited by your

1729
00:57:44,230 --> 00:57:42,720
own thought and your own discipline

1730
00:57:46,230 --> 00:57:44,240
the more discipline and the more

1731
00:57:49,270 --> 00:57:46,240
buoyancy of thought that you develop

1732
00:57:51,190 --> 00:57:49,280
the faster and the more myriad types of

1733
00:57:52,950 --> 00:57:51,200
evolution you become capable of as an

1734
00:57:56,150 --> 00:57:52,960
individual

1735
00:57:57,990 --> 00:57:56,160
i love it just need to learn the astral

1736
00:58:01,030 --> 00:57:58,000
language and the information

1737
00:58:02,789 --> 00:58:01,040
is right there and something i thought

1738
00:58:05,670 --> 00:58:02,799
would just be great to close this out

1739
00:58:06,789 --> 00:58:05,680
is this quote of yours that seems pretty

1740
00:58:08,789 --> 00:58:06,799
useful to mention

1741
00:58:10,470 --> 00:58:08,799
that if we're thinking big picture about

1742
00:58:11,030 --> 00:58:10,480
all the stuff that you talk about you've

1743
00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:11,040
said

1744
00:58:15,349 --> 00:58:12,960
the problem with the world is not that

1745
00:58:16,870 --> 00:58:15,359
we have bad people in charge but we have

1746
00:58:19,430 --> 00:58:16,880
too many good people

1747
00:58:21,349 --> 00:58:19,440
not doing the work and i agree with that

1748
00:58:21,990 --> 00:58:21,359
i think conspiracy minded people can

1749
00:58:24,470 --> 00:58:22,000
sometimes

1750
00:58:25,750 --> 00:58:24,480
get caught in a victim mentality i can't

1751
00:58:26,710 --> 00:58:25,760
get ahead because the goddamn

1752
00:58:28,470 --> 00:58:26,720
rockefellers

1753
00:58:30,230 --> 00:58:28,480
or just a defeatist attitude this

1754
00:58:31,270 --> 00:58:30,240
machine is so big you know what the hell

1755
00:58:33,190 --> 00:58:31,280
am i gonna do

1756
00:58:35,190 --> 00:58:33,200
and i try to be clear that we can

1757
00:58:36,150 --> 00:58:35,200
explore all sorts of things but if we

1758
00:58:38,150 --> 00:58:36,160
end up having

1759
00:58:39,670 --> 00:58:38,160
a more accurate understanding of the

1760
00:58:41,829 --> 00:58:39,680
world through our guests

1761
00:58:43,670 --> 00:58:41,839
rather than by absorbing what the

1762
00:58:46,230 --> 00:58:43,680
mainstream culture is fed

1763
00:58:47,589 --> 00:58:46,240
we should be better prepared for success

1764
00:58:49,829 --> 00:58:47,599
not worse off

1765
00:58:51,670 --> 00:58:49,839
and you know that be the core of the thc

1766
00:58:54,150 --> 00:58:51,680
agricore if you were to ask me

1767
00:58:55,670 --> 00:58:54,160
but it's hard enough to put ourselves in

1768
00:58:58,390 --> 00:58:55,680
a successful position

1769
00:59:00,309 --> 00:58:58,400
in this system now how do we increase

1770
00:59:02,470 --> 00:59:00,319
our numbers how do we broach this

1771
00:59:04,870 --> 00:59:02,480
with conventional friends and family who

1772
00:59:06,470 --> 00:59:04,880
are those good people that aren't doing

1773
00:59:09,190 --> 00:59:06,480
the work

1774
00:59:09,990 --> 00:59:09,200
well they have to see that you have done

1775
00:59:11,910 --> 00:59:10,000
the work

1776
00:59:14,309 --> 00:59:11,920
and see what benefits you're getting as

1777
00:59:17,349 --> 00:59:14,319
a result you have to actually stand

1778
00:59:19,030 --> 00:59:17,359
as an example of what can happen when

1779
00:59:20,549 --> 00:59:19,040
you focus on yourself so

1780
00:59:21,829 --> 00:59:20,559
if you're listening to all these things

1781
00:59:23,190 --> 00:59:21,839
day in and day out and you're still

1782
00:59:25,829 --> 00:59:23,200
living in an apartment

1783
00:59:27,430 --> 00:59:25,839
or you know not having the land that you

1784
00:59:28,789 --> 00:59:27,440
talk about or the freedom that you're

1785
00:59:30,069 --> 00:59:28,799
talking about that other people are

1786
00:59:32,630 --> 00:59:30,079
holding over your head

1787
00:59:33,910 --> 00:59:32,640
and blah blah blah then what can they

1788
00:59:36,950 --> 00:59:33,920
draw away from your

1789
00:59:38,630 --> 00:59:36,960
hollow words nothing except for fear

1790
00:59:40,950 --> 00:59:38,640
that's not going to help them in any way

1791
00:59:42,630 --> 00:59:40,960
shape or form you have to not only be

1792
00:59:44,390 --> 00:59:42,640
able to transcend the fear but you have

1793
00:59:47,510 --> 00:59:44,400
to become an example of doing

1794
00:59:51,349 --> 00:59:47,520
things outside of the scope of the way

1795
00:59:54,549 --> 00:59:51,359
that things are running so realistically

1796
00:59:56,230 --> 00:59:54,559
the conspiracy network is very very

1797
00:59:58,390 --> 00:59:56,240
important to know what you're

1798
00:59:59,910 --> 00:59:58,400
up against or what you could be up

1799
01:00:01,030 --> 00:59:59,920
against because not all of it is

1800
01:00:02,789 --> 01:00:01,040
probably truth

1801
01:00:05,030 --> 01:00:02,799
right there are some things that it's

1802
01:00:06,950 --> 01:00:05,040
like there's half truths and whole lies

1803
01:00:09,510 --> 01:00:06,960
hidden in lots of things

1804
01:00:11,030 --> 01:00:09,520
so you have to begin to not only

1805
01:00:11,589 --> 01:00:11,040
differentiate what is true and what

1806
01:00:13,910 --> 01:00:11,599
isn't and

1807
01:00:16,309 --> 01:00:13,920
actually put it to scrutiny not by just

1808
01:00:18,470 --> 01:00:16,319
many hours of research online

1809
01:00:20,470 --> 01:00:18,480
but by living it and exploring those

1810
01:00:22,470 --> 01:00:20,480
psychic dimensions that correspond to

1811
01:00:24,390 --> 01:00:22,480
those things to determine what validity

1812
01:00:25,829 --> 01:00:24,400
there is either subjectively or

1813
01:00:27,910 --> 01:00:25,839
objectively

1814
01:00:29,750 --> 01:00:27,920
and then you have to choose to do

1815
01:00:31,430 --> 01:00:29,760
something different about it

1816
01:00:33,510 --> 01:00:31,440
and so what is it that you're doing are

1817
01:00:34,950 --> 01:00:33,520
you filling out you know notices of

1818
01:00:37,910 --> 01:00:34,960
liability

1819
01:00:39,910 --> 01:00:37,920
are you taking back your straw manpower

1820
01:00:40,950 --> 01:00:39,920
are you starting lawsuits against those

1821
01:00:42,950 --> 01:00:40,960
businesses

1822
01:00:44,789 --> 01:00:42,960
and how are you actually doing that are

1823
01:00:45,430 --> 01:00:44,799
you doing this is through crowdfunding

1824
01:00:47,589 --> 01:00:45,440
are you doing

1825
01:00:49,190 --> 01:00:47,599
you have to make action you have to be

1826
01:00:51,670 --> 01:00:49,200
an example

1827
01:00:52,710 --> 01:00:51,680
if you expect anybody else to ever

1828
01:00:56,069 --> 01:00:52,720
listen to you

1829
01:00:58,309 --> 01:00:56,079
one bit and if you're not doing and

1830
01:00:59,589 --> 01:00:58,319
saying the same things if those two

1831
01:01:01,670 --> 01:00:59,599
things aren't congruent

1832
01:01:03,910 --> 01:01:01,680
then what other people say about you

1833
01:01:04,870 --> 01:01:03,920
will also be incongruent with what your

1834
01:01:06,630 --> 01:01:04,880
intention is

1835
01:01:08,150 --> 01:01:06,640
and so it's very very very important

1836
01:01:09,670 --> 01:01:08,160
that people get on the same page with

1837
01:01:10,390 --> 01:01:09,680
themselves and start walking their own

1838
01:01:13,270 --> 01:01:10,400
talk

1839
01:01:15,030 --> 01:01:13,280
and i think for the large portion of the

1840
01:01:16,630 --> 01:01:15,040
population that comes down to

1841
01:01:18,150 --> 01:01:16,640
if you want to have a happier healthier

1842
01:01:18,950 --> 01:01:18,160
world you need to process your own

1843
01:01:23,349 --> 01:01:18,960
traumas

1844
01:01:25,430 --> 01:01:23,359
have to get clear from those

1845
01:01:26,789 --> 01:01:25,440
traumatic experiences that are otherwise

1846
01:01:29,030 --> 01:01:26,799
dictating your ego

1847
01:01:30,069 --> 01:01:29,040
and influencing all of your creations

1848
01:01:32,789 --> 01:01:30,079
and leading you

1849
01:01:34,549 --> 01:01:32,799
to have belief systems and stories about

1850
01:01:35,349 --> 01:01:34,559
yourself and what you can do or what you

1851
01:01:37,430 --> 01:01:35,359
can't do

1852
01:01:39,030 --> 01:01:37,440
when you begin to overcome that other

1853
01:01:40,950 --> 01:01:39,040
people will inherently

1854
01:01:42,470 --> 01:01:40,960
not because you're trying to not because

1855
01:01:44,870 --> 01:01:42,480
you're trying to persuade them

1856
01:01:46,950 --> 01:01:44,880
they'll inherently look at you and say

1857
01:01:48,789 --> 01:01:46,960
you know whatever he or she did

1858
01:01:50,309 --> 01:01:48,799
that i'm looking at right now it's made

1859
01:01:51,910 --> 01:01:50,319
a huge difference because they're hardly

1860
01:01:52,870 --> 01:01:51,920
noticeable as the person that i saw

1861
01:01:55,430 --> 01:01:52,880
before

1862
01:01:55,990 --> 01:01:55,440
i want a piece of that myself and

1863
01:01:58,150 --> 01:01:56,000
instead of

1864
01:01:59,670 --> 01:01:58,160
giving unsolicited advice about the

1865
01:02:02,150 --> 01:01:59,680
conspiracies that you're learning about

1866
01:02:04,390 --> 01:02:02,160
you can now give direct experience

1867
01:02:06,150 --> 01:02:04,400
about what you yourself have overcome

1868
01:02:07,829 --> 01:02:06,160
and people will be attracted to you and

1869
01:02:09,430 --> 01:02:07,839
drink from the nectar of what it is that

1870
01:02:12,309 --> 01:02:09,440
you've already accomplished

1871
01:02:14,309 --> 01:02:12,319
and in that way they might achieve a

1872
01:02:16,390 --> 01:02:14,319
similar reaction when enough of us

1873
01:02:18,710 --> 01:02:16,400
do this that's how we earn our own

1874
01:02:20,230 --> 01:02:18,720
freedom the more power that you give to

1875
01:02:22,870 --> 01:02:20,240
any idea or

1876
01:02:24,710 --> 01:02:22,880
thought or belief system that you

1877
01:02:26,950 --> 01:02:24,720
yourself are not embodying

1878
01:02:29,589 --> 01:02:26,960
it is only hollow and it only

1879
01:02:31,829 --> 01:02:29,599
exacerbates and aggrandizes the ego

1880
01:02:32,630 --> 01:02:31,839
and that's not going to help anybody get

1881
01:02:36,150 --> 01:02:32,640
anywhere

1882
01:02:39,190 --> 01:02:36,160
at all man

1883
01:02:42,950 --> 01:02:39,200
cheers to that this has been just

1884
01:02:46,230 --> 01:02:42,960
a lot of fun and really information rich

1885
01:02:48,230 --> 01:02:46,240
just like last time before i let you go

1886
01:02:50,630 --> 01:02:48,240
definitely tell the people what they'll

1887
01:02:52,950 --> 01:02:50,640
find at phoenix aurelius.org or any

1888
01:02:55,029 --> 01:02:52,960
upcoming events or work that they should

1889
01:02:56,870 --> 01:02:55,039
be tapping into

1890
01:02:58,470 --> 01:02:56,880
awesome thank you man yeah so anybody

1891
01:03:00,069 --> 01:02:58,480
who's interested in

1892
01:03:01,990 --> 01:03:00,079
supporting my work and supporting my

1893
01:03:03,870 --> 01:03:02,000
research in the research academy

1894
01:03:05,510 --> 01:03:03,880
i always invite you to go to phoenix

1895
01:03:08,630 --> 01:03:05,520
aurelius.org

1896
01:03:10,789 --> 01:03:08,640
and you can actually take 30

1897
01:03:11,670 --> 01:03:10,799
off of anything in the apothecary by

1898
01:03:15,190 --> 01:03:11,680
entering in

1899
01:03:17,910 --> 01:03:15,200
higher side all one word into the

1900
01:03:18,230 --> 01:03:17,920
coupon code section of the website and

1901
01:03:20,950 --> 01:03:18,240
the

1902
01:03:22,309 --> 01:03:20,960
shopping cart that will take 30 off of

1903
01:03:24,230 --> 01:03:22,319
anything that's in

1904
01:03:26,309 --> 01:03:24,240
our spagyric apothecary because that's

1905
01:03:28,069 --> 01:03:26,319
kind of the bread and butter of how

1906
01:03:30,710 --> 01:03:28,079
i'm able to make products that

1907
01:03:33,430 --> 01:03:30,720
reciprocally give you something back

1908
01:03:36,230 --> 01:03:33,440
and continue to fund my work because you

1909
01:03:39,109 --> 01:03:36,240
don't get paid for hours of reading

1910
01:03:41,109 --> 01:03:39,119
you know spending 15 years reading and

1911
01:03:41,430 --> 01:03:41,119
performing lab work nobody pays you for

1912
01:03:43,029 --> 01:03:41,440
that

1913
01:03:44,789 --> 01:03:43,039
it's actually very draining on the

1914
01:03:46,470 --> 01:03:44,799
pocketbook so that's the number one way

1915
01:03:48,950 --> 01:03:46,480
that people can support us

1916
01:03:49,589 --> 01:03:48,960
i also have teachable courses and i

1917
01:03:52,549 --> 01:03:49,599
teach

1918
01:03:53,349 --> 01:03:52,559
live courses so coming up on october

1919
01:03:56,390 --> 01:03:53,359
17th

1920
01:03:58,789 --> 01:03:56,400
i have a class teaching people expert

1921
01:04:00,789 --> 01:03:58,799
fermentation skills for the home and lab

1922
01:04:02,950 --> 01:04:00,799
so i try and direct these breakout

1923
01:04:05,349 --> 01:04:02,960
groups session study

1924
01:04:07,190 --> 01:04:05,359
courses so that people who aren't

1925
01:04:09,029 --> 01:04:07,200
interested in alchemy are also

1926
01:04:09,510 --> 01:04:09,039
interested in the breakout session so

1927
01:04:11,829 --> 01:04:09,520
that

1928
01:04:13,190 --> 01:04:11,839
everybody can learn a little piece of

1929
01:04:14,710 --> 01:04:13,200
alchemical work

1930
01:04:16,230 --> 01:04:14,720
even if they're not going to be a lab

1931
01:04:17,750 --> 01:04:16,240
alchemist and so we'll be

1932
01:04:19,190 --> 01:04:17,760
fermenting all sorts of different types

1933
01:04:21,109 --> 01:04:19,200
of things i'll be teaching people how to

1934
01:04:24,150 --> 01:04:21,119
make wine and mead

1935
01:04:25,510 --> 01:04:24,160
and beers and ancient ales all of you

1936
01:04:28,870 --> 01:04:25,520
who are interested in my

1937
01:04:32,150 --> 01:04:28,880
pictish scottish heather ale recipe

1938
01:04:33,670 --> 01:04:32,160
i'll be teaching that and we'll also be

1939
01:04:35,430 --> 01:04:33,680
discussing a lot of other things how to

1940
01:04:36,390 --> 01:04:35,440
ferment just about anything that you can

1941
01:04:39,510 --> 01:04:36,400
think of whether

1942
01:04:42,150 --> 01:04:39,520
it's water or pickles or

1943
01:04:44,470 --> 01:04:42,160
fermented veggies or wine or foods or

1944
01:04:46,230 --> 01:04:44,480
making ferments even for the garden so

1945
01:04:47,829 --> 01:04:46,240
i'll be teaching you tons and tons and

1946
01:04:48,950 --> 01:04:47,839
tons of different skills then that's

1947
01:04:51,029 --> 01:04:48,960
october 17th

1948
01:04:52,309 --> 01:04:51,039
we still have plenty of room on that one

1949
01:04:55,750 --> 01:04:52,319
and then november

1950
01:04:56,549 --> 01:04:55,760
14th i have one on the waterworks and so

1951
01:04:58,230 --> 01:04:56,559
these are

1952
01:04:59,990 --> 01:04:58,240
courses where you can actually come for

1953
01:05:01,910 --> 01:05:00,000
an entire day they usually run from

1954
01:05:04,549 --> 01:05:01,920
about 10 a.m to 4 p.m

1955
01:05:06,230 --> 01:05:04,559
or local time and you can come in and

1956
01:05:09,510 --> 01:05:06,240
work in the lab and study

1957
01:05:12,470 --> 01:05:09,520
and then we also usually have dr jin yan

1958
01:05:13,589 --> 01:05:12,480
who is our tcm practitioner here in the

1959
01:05:16,150 --> 01:05:13,599
days either before

1960
01:05:17,910 --> 01:05:16,160
or after sometimes both so if you're

1961
01:05:19,589 --> 01:05:17,920
interested in getting gua sha or

1962
01:05:20,230 --> 01:05:19,599
acupuncture other things like that you

1963
01:05:22,309 --> 01:05:20,240
can do that

1964
01:05:24,230 --> 01:05:22,319
around those times as well so that you

1965
01:05:25,349 --> 01:05:24,240
know you have a reason come in for the

1966
01:05:27,349 --> 01:05:25,359
whole weekend

1967
01:05:28,390 --> 01:05:27,359
basically instead of just coming in just

1968
01:05:30,630 --> 01:05:28,400
for the class

1969
01:05:32,870 --> 01:05:30,640
so i've got those and i offer private

1970
01:05:34,950 --> 01:05:32,880
apprenticeships and all sorts of things

1971
01:05:35,990 --> 01:05:34,960
you're just going to find a wide range

1972
01:05:37,750 --> 01:05:36,000
of everything that i offer

1973
01:05:39,190 --> 01:05:37,760
when you go to phoenix aurelius.org but

1974
01:05:40,870 --> 01:05:39,200
the main things really are the

1975
01:05:42,549 --> 01:05:40,880
apothecary and the education

1976
01:05:45,029 --> 01:05:42,559
which is what i try and focus on because

1977
01:05:46,870 --> 01:05:45,039
those two things help people the most

1978
01:05:49,829 --> 01:05:46,880
and that's my intention is try and help

1979
01:05:52,230 --> 01:05:49,839
people to help themselves

1980
01:05:55,190 --> 01:05:52,240
amen i'm aligned with that and yes your

1981
01:05:55,829 --> 01:05:55,200
website is uh very robust and full of

1982
01:05:58,870 --> 01:05:55,839
stuff

1983
01:06:00,470 --> 01:05:58,880
for people to dig into and i'm also

1984
01:06:02,309 --> 01:06:00,480
trying to get my coupon codes out there

1985
01:06:04,470 --> 01:06:02,319
when i go on other shows very smart

1986
01:06:05,750 --> 01:06:04,480
gotta feed the eggors and stuff but i

1987
01:06:07,029 --> 01:06:05,760
guess i would ask you because it's

1988
01:06:09,029 --> 01:06:07,039
something that's come up for me

1989
01:06:11,349 --> 01:06:09,039
is the higher side coupon code case

1990
01:06:14,390 --> 01:06:11,359
sensitive at all is it all caps

1991
01:06:15,670 --> 01:06:14,400
nope it's completely you can put it in

1992
01:06:17,589 --> 01:06:15,680
all caps or you can put it in

1993
01:06:18,789 --> 01:06:17,599
low caps there's no case sensitivity to

1994
01:06:20,390 --> 01:06:18,799
it whatsoever

1995
01:06:22,470 --> 01:06:20,400
cool cool i got to figure out how to do

1996
01:06:24,710 --> 01:06:22,480
that it's become a problem for me but

1997
01:06:27,270 --> 01:06:24,720
all right man well awesome always a

1998
01:06:29,910 --> 01:06:27,280
pleasure i'm all jazzed up and motivated

1999
01:06:32,549 --> 01:06:29,920
and i hope it lasts but keep fighting

2000
01:06:36,069 --> 01:06:32,559
the good fight man until we meet again

2001
01:06:36,079 --> 01:06:41,829
wow what can i say guys just wow

2002
01:06:45,990 --> 01:06:44,069
i think phoenix is a great guest again

2003
01:06:49,109 --> 01:06:46,000
i'm impressed with not only the

2004
01:06:52,470 --> 01:06:49,119
range of his knowledge but also his

2005
01:06:53,990 --> 01:06:52,480
orating skills very clear and very

2006
01:06:55,910 --> 01:06:54,000
detailed responses

2007
01:06:57,349 --> 01:06:55,920
but i'm still left cutting out so many

2008
01:06:59,829 --> 01:06:57,359
questions due to time

2009
01:07:01,990 --> 01:06:59,839
but even just going with the flow i

2010
01:07:05,109 --> 01:07:02,000
didn't expect this interview to be so

2011
01:07:07,510 --> 01:07:05,119
sexual but those ideas around why

2012
01:07:09,190 --> 01:07:07,520
other beings might try to tap into our

2013
01:07:13,029 --> 01:07:09,200
power of creation

2014
01:07:15,430 --> 01:07:13,039
or other ways that power could be used

2015
01:07:16,789 --> 01:07:15,440
that stuff is provocative especially if

2016
01:07:20,069 --> 01:07:16,799
you think the cabal

2017
01:07:21,190 --> 01:07:20,079
of pedo cannibals is using sex magic in

2018
01:07:23,750 --> 01:07:21,200
any way

2019
01:07:25,910 --> 01:07:23,760
it's like well if you think that that

2020
01:07:27,589 --> 01:07:25,920
has any sort of potency

2021
01:07:30,390 --> 01:07:27,599
then we should probably try to

2022
01:07:32,549 --> 01:07:30,400
understand what's under the hood there

2023
01:07:33,990 --> 01:07:32,559
what is the power of our various forms

2024
01:07:36,390 --> 01:07:34,000
of energy

2025
01:07:38,309 --> 01:07:36,400
don't we sort of need our people using

2026
01:07:39,670 --> 01:07:38,319
all the tools we got on the positive

2027
01:07:42,789 --> 01:07:39,680
side

2028
01:07:45,510 --> 01:07:42,799
seems like sex magic has a lot of

2029
01:07:47,190 --> 01:07:45,520
applications maybe try to envision a

2030
01:07:51,270 --> 01:07:47,200
better world when you bang

2031
01:07:53,430 --> 01:07:51,280
i don't know so yeah i made it weird

2032
01:07:55,190 --> 01:07:53,440
but we rolled with it and got to some

2033
01:07:56,230 --> 01:07:55,200
pretty interesting places not just

2034
01:07:59,029 --> 01:07:56,240
sexual but

2035
01:08:00,789 --> 01:07:59,039
creation abilities in general i think

2036
01:08:01,510 --> 01:08:00,799
it's more in the second hour but even

2037
01:08:04,069 --> 01:08:01,520
something like

2038
01:08:05,029 --> 01:08:04,079
creating a business or a brand has a

2039
01:08:07,750 --> 01:08:05,039
spiritual

2040
01:08:08,630 --> 01:08:07,760
aggregate component and it's another

2041
01:08:10,309 --> 01:08:08,640
thing to consider

2042
01:08:13,589 --> 01:08:10,319
if you're launching something of your

2043
01:08:16,229 --> 01:08:13,599
own which seems like the best and really

2044
01:08:18,309 --> 01:08:16,239
only path forward and even though it's

2045
01:08:20,550 --> 01:08:18,319
not talked about a whole whole lot the

2046
01:08:22,149 --> 01:08:20,560
best feedback i ever get is from people

2047
01:08:24,149 --> 01:08:22,159
who were listeners throughout the whole

2048
01:08:26,950 --> 01:08:24,159
gamestop phase of my life and

2049
01:08:29,030 --> 01:08:26,960
got to watch me kind of quit in real

2050
01:08:31,749 --> 01:08:29,040
time and be right there and

2051
01:08:32,950 --> 01:08:31,759
see where the show was then versus where

2052
01:08:35,269 --> 01:08:32,960
it is now

2053
01:08:37,430 --> 01:08:35,279
i mean that example of my experience

2054
01:08:40,149 --> 01:08:37,440
from what i read in my inbox

2055
01:08:41,189 --> 01:08:40,159
has been really impactful on people to

2056
01:08:43,430 --> 01:08:41,199
actually

2057
01:08:45,269 --> 01:08:43,440
take the leap and dedicate themselves to

2058
01:08:47,189 --> 01:08:45,279
whatever it is they want to do

2059
01:08:49,430 --> 01:08:47,199
and over the years i think a lot of thc

2060
01:08:51,030 --> 01:08:49,440
listeners have grown their own projects

2061
01:08:53,829 --> 01:08:51,040
right along with me

2062
01:08:55,349 --> 01:08:53,839
and kudos to those people and best of

2063
01:08:57,189 --> 01:08:55,359
luck to anyone who's just getting

2064
01:08:59,349 --> 01:08:57,199
started with that kind of thing

2065
01:09:01,189 --> 01:08:59,359
but i got some exciting news here and i

2066
01:09:03,430 --> 01:09:01,199
didn't want to get too far down into a

2067
01:09:06,070 --> 01:09:03,440
wrap up without mentioning it

2068
01:09:06,870 --> 01:09:06,080
but our good pal gordon and i are doing

2069
01:09:10,390 --> 01:09:06,880
a joint

2070
01:09:13,030 --> 01:09:10,400
zoom hangout for our paid members with

2071
01:09:15,189 --> 01:09:13,040
sally fallon morel for the launch of her

2072
01:09:18,470 --> 01:09:15,199
book the contagion myth

2073
01:09:19,189 --> 01:09:18,480
so if you are a member of either thc

2074
01:09:22,309 --> 01:09:19,199
plus or

2075
01:09:24,470 --> 01:09:22,319
roon suit premium before

2076
01:09:26,229 --> 01:09:24,480
october 6th i guess because that is when

2077
01:09:29,590 --> 01:09:26,239
we're doing it october 6th

2078
01:09:31,910 --> 01:09:29,600
at 6 00 pm pacific

2079
01:09:33,990 --> 01:09:31,920
you can join in live and we're going to

2080
01:09:36,789 --> 01:09:34,000
save some time at the end for

2081
01:09:38,709 --> 01:09:36,799
member questions pretty awesome not

2082
01:09:40,709 --> 01:09:38,719
something i'm used to doing but gordon

2083
01:09:42,309 --> 01:09:40,719
suggested it and of course i wanted to

2084
01:09:45,110 --> 01:09:42,319
make that happen

2085
01:09:46,470 --> 01:09:45,120
this was a creative way for us both to

2086
01:09:50,149 --> 01:09:46,480
be involved and

2087
01:09:54,550 --> 01:09:50,159
not just be asking sally back on so soon

2088
01:09:56,790 --> 01:09:54,560
for another regular thc episode

2089
01:09:58,950 --> 01:09:56,800
so let it be known we're doing that we

2090
01:09:59,270 --> 01:09:58,960
really appreciate the people who support

2091
01:10:01,750 --> 01:09:59,280
us

2092
01:10:04,310 --> 01:10:01,760
and always want to try to increase the

2093
01:10:07,510 --> 01:10:04,320
value you get for that support

2094
01:10:10,149 --> 01:10:07,520
and give you more for being reciprocal

2095
01:10:11,510 --> 01:10:10,159
it's how we build the new world people

2096
01:10:13,430 --> 01:10:11,520
and it's a fitting show

2097
01:10:14,790 --> 01:10:13,440
to hear this announcement on because

2098
01:10:17,270 --> 01:10:14,800
phoenix has mentioned

2099
01:10:19,030 --> 01:10:17,280
sally and the westin a price foundation

2100
01:10:21,189 --> 01:10:19,040
a few times on his site

2101
01:10:22,950 --> 01:10:21,199
i was gonna bring it up with him today

2102
01:10:24,550 --> 01:10:22,960
but i think that was one of the things

2103
01:10:26,950 --> 01:10:24,560
that got cut

2104
01:10:29,510 --> 01:10:26,960
right i remember asking about memory

2105
01:10:33,270 --> 01:10:29,520
retention and brain training

2106
01:10:34,070 --> 01:10:33,280
and now you know why also wise of him to

2107
01:10:36,470 --> 01:10:34,080
start putting

2108
01:10:37,910 --> 01:10:36,480
out coupon codes in these interviews i

2109
01:10:40,390 --> 01:10:37,920
started doing the same if you've heard

2110
01:10:43,270 --> 01:10:40,400
me on any other shows recently

2111
01:10:44,070 --> 01:10:43,280
it let you know where the impact is if

2112
01:10:47,270 --> 01:10:44,080
you're a popular

2113
01:10:48,470 --> 01:10:47,280
guy and you have 20 podcast hosts asking

2114
01:10:50,790 --> 01:10:48,480
for interviews

2115
01:10:53,189 --> 01:10:50,800
and only two seem to have audiences that

2116
01:10:55,510 --> 01:10:53,199
have responded well in the past

2117
01:10:56,870 --> 01:10:55,520
well at least you know how to prioritize

2118
01:10:59,669 --> 01:10:56,880
your time

2119
01:11:01,350 --> 01:10:59,679
eventually the requests do become too

2120
01:11:04,390 --> 01:11:01,360
much and i can only assume

2121
01:11:05,669 --> 01:11:04,400
with a guy like phoenix that will be his

2122
01:11:08,070 --> 01:11:05,679
reality if it isn't

2123
01:11:09,669 --> 01:11:08,080
already but i say this kind of thing a

2124
01:11:10,390 --> 01:11:09,679
lot when it comes to supporting our

2125
01:11:12,790 --> 01:11:10,400
guests

2126
01:11:14,470 --> 01:11:12,800
and today i would say definitely try and

2127
01:11:16,950 --> 01:11:14,480
pick something up from phoenix's

2128
01:11:18,149 --> 01:11:16,960
apothecary with that higher side coupon

2129
01:11:20,149 --> 01:11:18,159
code

2130
01:11:23,110 --> 01:11:20,159
even if it's just to test the theory of

2131
01:11:25,270 --> 01:11:23,120
spagirix and say you gave it a shot

2132
01:11:27,350 --> 01:11:25,280
it's a rare enough discipline that just

2133
01:11:27,750 --> 01:11:27,360
to say you had something that was broken

2134
01:11:31,910 --> 01:11:27,760
down

2135
01:11:34,229 --> 01:11:31,920
and refined in that way is pretty unique

2136
01:11:36,950 --> 01:11:34,239
i'm definitely gonna try some things out

2137
01:11:38,950 --> 01:11:36,960
see if i can't cure the old allergies

2138
01:11:41,189 --> 01:11:38,960
you can probably hear it in my voice but

2139
01:11:44,390 --> 01:11:41,199
all the smoke in the air out here is

2140
01:11:46,390 --> 01:11:44,400
actually getting to me

2141
01:11:48,550 --> 01:11:46,400
it's been rough the last few days after

2142
01:11:49,110 --> 01:11:48,560
like a month of forgetting i ever had a

2143
01:11:52,229 --> 01:11:49,120
problem

2144
01:11:54,390 --> 01:11:52,239
so ebbs and flows strikes and gutters

2145
01:11:57,510 --> 01:11:54,400
but phoenix makes a lot of good points

2146
01:11:59,590 --> 01:11:57,520
we have to be the example we have to

2147
01:11:59,910 --> 01:11:59,600
look like we're keeping our wits about

2148
01:12:03,270 --> 01:11:59,920
us

2149
01:12:03,990 --> 01:12:03,280
in a time when many are not we should be

2150
01:12:06,550 --> 01:12:04,000
able to show

2151
01:12:07,270 --> 01:12:06,560
that our knowledge and curiosity about

2152
01:12:10,470 --> 01:12:07,280
the world

2153
01:12:11,990 --> 01:12:10,480
and the thoughtfulness we put into our

2154
01:12:12,950 --> 01:12:12,000
actions and the work we've done on

2155
01:12:17,030 --> 01:12:12,960
ourselves

2156
01:12:19,189 --> 01:12:17,040
it should all contribute to our success

2157
01:12:20,470 --> 01:12:19,199
rather than contributing to our tail

2158
01:12:22,550 --> 01:12:20,480
spin to rock bottom

2159
01:12:24,709 --> 01:12:22,560
as is the way they try to always make us

2160
01:12:27,750 --> 01:12:24,719
look and i wish everyone as

2161
01:12:28,310 --> 01:12:27,760
much success as possible as long as they

2162
01:12:31,430 --> 01:12:28,320
stay

2163
01:12:33,270 --> 01:12:31,440
authentic and independent you really

2164
01:12:35,189 --> 01:12:33,280
can't keep your authenticity when you

2165
01:12:36,870 --> 01:12:35,199
sign some of the deals that i have seen

2166
01:12:39,510 --> 01:12:36,880
proposed

2167
01:12:41,350 --> 01:12:39,520
anyway loved today's show big thanks to

2168
01:12:41,910 --> 01:12:41,360
phoenix and big thanks to you for

2169
01:12:44,070 --> 01:12:41,920
listening

2170
01:12:46,470 --> 01:12:44,080
i hope long-term listeners feel as if

2171
01:12:48,709 --> 01:12:46,480
thc has contributed to their

2172
01:12:50,630 --> 01:12:48,719
preparedness for these wild times or

2173
01:12:51,750 --> 01:12:50,640
their overall knowledge that they draw

2174
01:12:53,669 --> 01:12:51,760
from

2175
01:12:56,709 --> 01:12:53,679
you're all the best sign up for plus if

2176
01:12:59,270 --> 01:12:56,719
you like what i do thehiresidechats.com

2177
01:12:59,910 --> 01:12:59,280
hundreds of extra hours to hundreds of

2178
01:13:02,709 --> 01:12:59,920
interviews

2179
01:13:03,990 --> 01:13:02,719
in today's second hour we talked about

2180
01:13:06,070 --> 01:13:04,000
business entities

2181
01:13:08,470 --> 01:13:06,080
and egregors like i kind of mentioned

2182
01:13:11,430 --> 01:13:08,480
before and hermunculi

2183
01:13:12,870 --> 01:13:11,440
but also land spirits and bioregional

2184
01:13:15,110 --> 01:13:12,880
animism

2185
01:13:17,270 --> 01:13:15,120
and working with those land spirits and

2186
01:13:19,990 --> 01:13:17,280
forming relationships with entities

2187
01:13:21,430 --> 01:13:20,000
outside of our self and a few other

2188
01:13:23,750 --> 01:13:21,440
awesome things you'd

2189
01:13:25,510 --> 01:13:23,760
probably love to hear about if you liked

2190
01:13:27,750 --> 01:13:25,520
the first hour but either way

2191
01:13:30,790 --> 01:13:27,760
i will see you next time i've done my

2192
01:13:33,750 --> 01:13:30,800
part your move edgar gore's hermunculi

2193
01:13:34,550 --> 01:13:33,760
and fungal networks of the new reality

2194
01:13:44,190 --> 01:13:34,560
you're

2195
01:13:49,990 --> 01:13:45,669
[Music]

2196
01:13:53,430 --> 01:13:50,000
and dreams everybody's

2197
01:13:55,830 --> 01:13:53,440
looking for something some of them want

2198
01:13:59,830 --> 01:13:55,840
to use you

2199
01:14:03,669 --> 01:13:59,840
some of them want to get used by

2200
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:03,679
some of them want to abuse you

2201
01:14:21,060 --> 01:14:15,050
some of them want to be abused

2202
01:14:35,189 --> 01:14:30,700
[Music]

2203
01:14:42,149 --> 01:14:39,110
some of them want to use you

2204
01:14:46,950 --> 01:14:42,159
some of them want to get used by

2205
01:14:57,110 --> 01:14:46,960
you some of them want to abuse you